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[Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jonathan,

Not sure to understand what do you say. When you create a GTKBuilder project
(instead of libglade) by default he is on the last version of GKT i.e. 2.16
and there is no version call 2.18, it is 2.8, 2.10, 2.12 and 2.14 before.
How to check the version of GTK ? i have done a search but it is impossible
to say which version we are using.
An idea ?

2010/9/18 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>

> I wonder if this problem is related to switching to GTK builder.  We are
> loosing compatibility with older versions of Ubuntu.  I think we need GTK
> 2.16 for our GtkBuilder stuff to work.  Ubuntu 9.10 should have GTK 2.18, I
> think.  I'll setup a VirtualBox of Ubuntu 9.10 and try it out.  If someone
> figures it out before me, just drop me an email.
>
> Thanks!
> -Jonathan
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Okay i have this version Operationnelle on this system too. I should find
>> why Bazaar Explorer don't work well.
>> I have created a new project with some files of my Nexus and actually, the
>> right clic on the main project tree nothing works.
>> Another thing : is it something have being changed on the layout in the
>> right clic of the clip. I have done a layout with 4 clips and i have now a
>> black vertical bar in the middle (see screenshot join) (and not horisontal
>> ?) that i wasn't having yet.
>> And always a little problem with the clip created by Title Animated 3D
>> (see at left). In fact, i have just give a simple name. I don't know why he
>> want to give a number (ie %d) ?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> I was believing than another revision was done since this  morning (that
>>> could explain that) but no. I have no problem for launch it on Lucid.
>>>
>>> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> How are you ? Perhaps tonight ?
>>>>
>>>> I have always (not for a long time) my karmic in 32 bits for my HTPC. I
>>>> have done a update on this system (1.2.0 beta1), i have a  conflict
>>>> encountered - revision 332 after running openshot i have an Syntaxerror.
>>>> Have the same ? I'm going to check on the other
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else got a Karmic (9.10) install (maybe a virtualbox)? Just
>>>>> wondered if anyone else can verify a problem with the right click menu on
>>>>> the main project tree - it's not appearing & getting a python error.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 September 2010 12:28, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jonathan, (and hello, at this moment you go to sleep very late or
>>>>>> rather early !!!!!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some anothers news effects very interesting here<http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video : all the effects presents work fine
>>>>>>> Audio : a little doubt for the tremble but the others work fine too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For this week-end ? (i am nearly sure)[?][?]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My general impression is that she is more and more stable (under
>>>>>>> blender/Python API)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A suggestion: for the next version between one week (for  sample) we
>>>>>>> should launch a test campaign and same ask help on our forum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  | So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version
>>>>>>>> of Sox.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is obligatory ? i have not yet installed MLT 0.5.10 on Lucid ? No
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>> Strange Burning tv was working great on Karmic.
>>>>>>>> Deinterlace :is it necesseray to remove it if it is working fine
>>>>>>>> with MLT 0.5.10 ? A advertisement could just do ? Marverick is not far a way
>>>>>>>> and with the PPA ........
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  | I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and
>>>>>>>> different computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just
>>>>>>>> fine on MLT 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>  Also, MLT 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10
>>>>>>>> uses.  So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of
>>>>>>>> Sox.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have re-tested and that works great now (a bad manipulation ?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  | I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect
>>>>>>>> text video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires
>>>>>>>> converting the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never
>>>>>>>> could figure that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until
>>>>>>>> another day. =)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Domage. It is really awesone It strikes the minds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  |
>>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay and i done some others tests for this effects at problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Olivier, thanks for the feedback.  Here are the resolutions for the
>>>>>>>>> issues we have found so far:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - deinterlace - seg faults on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6. Works fine
>>>>>>>>> on MLT 0.5.10, but Ubuntu does not have that version yet.
>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - wave - seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - BurningTV - only black screen, seems broken on MLT 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>> & 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Audio:
>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>> FIXED - bass - not changing the sound
>>>>>>>>> FIXED - treble - not changing the sound
>>>>>>>>> FIXED - echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ...
>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>> FIXED - phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]].  The pitch effect seemed completely broken.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nice this puzzle transition.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have finished my test on a Ubuntu 10.04 in 64 bits with all
>>>>>>>>>> standard And i note the following things :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> two type of error : a seg faults for :
>>>>>>>>>> - freiOr.constrestor
>>>>>>>>>> -deinterlace
>>>>>>>>>> and a black window for :
>>>>>>>>>> -burning tv
>>>>>>>>>> -chroma key
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Audio:
>>>>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing in console for the others but same if i am not a
>>>>>>>>>> sound specialize, i have the impression that none ...........works.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  | Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the command
>>>>>>>>>> line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>> How do you test this sound effects in the command line "play" ? It
>>>>>>>>>> can help me to know what i must ..................hear before to test. And
>>>>>>>>>> if sox works (in command line) the problem not comes from him.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I aml going to do some others tests with the last version of MLT
>>>>>>>>>> (ie 5.10) for this effects and after with the last version of FreiOr-plugins
>>>>>>>>>> always in a 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have found a little translation bug (or not ? ) When you add a
>>>>>>>>>> effect in the Clip Propertie (tab effect), none effect is translate while it
>>>>>>>>>> is the opposite in the tab effect in the main window. It is not the same
>>>>>>>>>> list ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Beautiful this template for the Title animated 3D, i like this
>>>>>>>>>> clapboard/clapperboards template.
>>>>>>>>>> I hope that you could fix all the small bugs in the others files,
>>>>>>>>>> i find the little train very funny but too much quick. And the famous effect
>>>>>>>>>> particle (like the Youtube video that you have show us when you have speak
>>>>>>>>>> the first time) Have you managed to create.
>>>>>>>>>>  I don't remember if i have said about a bug when you create a
>>>>>>>>>> name of the title (see the screenshot),
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>> I made a modification to the puzzle transition.  It didn't really
>>>>>>>>>>> work the way that it was made.  The entire puzzle would just appear.  So, I
>>>>>>>>>>> made some of the pieces different shades of grey, and then softened the
>>>>>>>>>>> edges with a "blur" in gimp.  Check it out... it's kind of fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry, i will be more available tomorrow and normally when
>>>>>>>>>>>> you wake up tomorrow............. it will done. [?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember if i have told you about this new effect :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=553
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to not update any more translations, but now that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have lots of new blender animations to add in, I'll go ahead and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-generate the POT later tonight.  I've gone ahead and added the "missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame" error message to the list of translations.  They will all be in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaunchPad by the time you wake up tomorrow... hopefully. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is us (and not Blender) in the BlendorGenerator.py line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 723/724.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Andy, a user inform us that it miss a string to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate and after verification that's right. All was not genereted by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pot file !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the subject :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=552&p=2449#p2449
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but do you think that can not be the 5.10 and the 1.2 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can update their package like it is some great and important projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some others important projects (kdenlive, us) ? They have already done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  Lucid (i.e.MLT).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the versions in Maverick, and it looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT is a bit newer, but frei0r is the same version as in Lucid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Lucid is 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Maverick is 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frei0r is 1.1.22 (both Lucid and Maverick)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes but a thought: i suppose that this version (i.e. mlt &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freiOr-plugins) will be certainly in Marverick. No ? It is too late for them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my tests, I was using the versions in the repository
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of mlt, sox, and frei0r.  Since those packages are not in our PPA, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming most users will just stick with the version in their distro's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check out the blender files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here  some news greats blend files :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476#p2446
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the test, the new version of the  freior-plugins is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. We can find it here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/ppa>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must do the tests with this version or with the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'official" ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And which one version of MLT ? The last version is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Update:*  I have tested on Ubuntu 10.10 beta, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same issues are reproducible.  I guess these issues also existed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last release of OpenShot, because they don't seem related to our code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather some bug between MLT, Sox, and Frei0r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Thomas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing OpenShot on Ubuntu 10.04, and here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the issues I'm having so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Video:* - A few video effects have give me some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deinterlace - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave - looks horrible, doesn't work correctly (at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least no seg fault though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water - worked fine for me, but I removed it from bzr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Audio:* - These sox effects don't do anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me... but throw lots of these errors in the terminal output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decay ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [search-ms [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to continue to test on Ubuntu 10.04, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will test on Ubuntu 10.10 (to see if these issues still exist).  Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will try with the newest version of MLT and see what happens.  Please let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if you can verify these errors on your own system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier
>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier
>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier
>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>
>
>


-- 
Olivier
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