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[Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>]

But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a
desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why
bother with the TV mode at all? Instead, it sounds like your setup
would work best with a full blown Ubuntu desktop installation, rather
than a customized Ubuntu TV installation.

The large majority of users see TVs as consumption devices, and that's
what they'll expect on a SmartTV as well. The consumption
opportunities are there, but they're expanded upon to bring in more
content from more sources, like the internet. But the idea of
developing a SmartTV OS that's just a desktop OS is antiquated, and
not a good idea.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 17:22, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
<joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Den 29. nov. 2011 01:10, skrev Ian Santopietro:
>>
>> I never said it should only be used for viewing videos.
>>
>> But, TVs are consumption devices, and should be treated as such. Think
>> of it as a large tablet. Tablets are great devices for watching
>> videos, surfing the internet, reading email, IM, and games. They also
>> work great for photo galleries, and listening to music. But they
>> aren't very good for being productive. Office isn't very good, photo
>
> Why not? It's just a computer with a screen, right? As long as you connect a
> keyboard and mouse to it, I see no reason why it shouldn't be just as
> productive as any laptop -- unless the operating system assumes that you
> would never connect a keyboard and mouse. Why should you not use a normal
> Ubuntu desktop on this one, for instance?
> http://framsikt.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/asus-eee-transformer-pad-on-sale-from-april-6-to-c2a3-379.jpg.
> It's a tablet that sometimes has a keyboard and touchpad. The same would be
> true for the TV. If you have no keyboard and mouse attached, then it'd
> simply be used as a TV. When you attach a keyboard and mouse, then you can
> use it as an extra PC.
>
>> editors are mostly simple and geared towards correction, etc. This is
>> a perfect example of how TV's should be used. When the need to be
>> productive arises, the best thing the TV could do is to easily set up
>> your computer to be productive.
>
> You are making the assumption that Ubuntu has to be like Android and Ios? I
> see no reason why a big screen with 1920x1080 shouldn't be used for office
> stuff. I mean... The computers that will be shipping with those TVs, will be
> more than powerful enough to run Ubuntu Desktop, and although the screen is
> further away, it's usually also larger. Nothing to prevent you from
> increasing the font-size if that's necessary though.
>
> Computers, on the other hand, are much better for being productive,
> and much worse for consumption. There's obviously a tradeoff, but I
> typically don't like watching movies on my computer proper. The screen
> is too small and too close, and the chair isn't good for relaxing. So
> in this case, the best thing the computer could do is set up my TV to
> watch the movie.
>
>
> I really don't understand the distinction, other than previous software.
> Obviously, Ubuntu TV should provide good tools for watching video using a
> remote control. That doesn't prevent also providing a normal desktop view. I
> certainly don't understand what your chair has to do with anything. :)
>
> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>
>
>
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