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[Omar B. <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> 
> On 26. feb. 2012 11:35, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> > On 02/25/2012 10:03 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> >>
> >>> Each added step reduces the likelihood that a user becomes aware and
> >>> sure of the functionality and completes the task. Setting a "Filter"
> >>> does not fit well into a browsing approach.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can you explain what? Is it the name "filter" you react to, or selecting
> >> categories? Because you do that in Gnome menubar as well, when you
> >> select Applications > Internet for instance.
> >
> > Yes, there's similarity in that you select Categories, be it as filter 
> > or menu. You already mentioned one of the differences, but let me try 
> > to make a complete list.
> >
> 
> > What is different with using Filters in the Dash from using a menu 
> > with sub-menus per category?
> > - Initially, there is no category selected
> > - Initially, categories are invisible
> > - Category selection is not exclusive, but additive (though not in 11.10)
> > - Category selection happens in a dedicated area, there is no 
> > similarity in the representation of categories and items
> 
> So I proposed showing the categories by default, and remembering the 
> state until the user changed the view. That has nothing to do with any 
> concepts. It's just an extremely small aspect. Categories are set to 
> multi-select on left-click, which I consider to be a bug since no other 
> software in Ubuntu works that way. Again, not a conceptual thing at all. 
> Why is it important that the categories share screen space with the 
> items? That isn't easy to understand. I would think you'd like to have a 
> visual reminder of what category you're displaying.

here is the bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/841847

It was that there was no multi-select in 11.10, however, it did not specify that it needed to be just on click and not a combination. So i agree with others that Ctrl or shift + click would be more consistent.

> 
> >
> >
> >> If you don't know what you're looking for, then you should use the 
> >> Ubuntu
> >> Software Center.
> >
> > For finding and starting an application, the Software Center is not 
> > well suited. It's startup time makes it seem ridiculous, when compared 
> > to the application menu we had.
> >
> 
> Remember the premiss that you have absolutely no idea what applications 
> exist. You're browsing for available software now. You're not trying to 
> launch something specific. If you were searching for something specific, 
> you would obviously know what it was. The question is whether you would 
> like page of information about the application, or if you'd like a five 
> word summary. I don't think Windows 95-style menus are a good 
> replacement for software centers as a way to browse available software.
> 
> 
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> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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