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Re: OpenShot Help Manual - 4th progress report

 

I's me again
Be carrefull when you tried it, me if i have one word to tell you, tried it
on virtualization, it can broken your installation. you can be safe whith no
and after sudo apt-get install -f

See you later perhaps
Thanks ( i have forgotten)
Olivier
Ps i have found on pidgin to have all the conversation,( i'm safe)
2009/7/20 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hello Jonathan
>
> i have learn to create a .deb for all architectures at the hand yesterday
> or rather this morning. i have ask help on the ubuntufr forum at a blogger
> which has create a little program in python for nautilus : cover thumbnailer
> (very nice than you can find  here<http://software.flogisoft.com/cover-thumbnailer/fr/>
> .It's along history which has finished after 31/2-4 hours after on gtalk.If
> there are 2 days ago, don't work with now i m a pro, i can upload files,
> tchat with 2 personns in the main time (with helen and it's hard to have 2
> conversations on different object). It's was a good experience to speak with
> Helen. Perhaps today.
>
> i have a lot of chance to have a nice people like  Flozz. i like this
> software and i ask him if i can help me to tell me how create a .deb. in few
> minutes he tell me to contact him like i want, i have choose gtalk (it's
> better than a email, and
> a word). i was thinking  than he was only explain how method
> (checktinstall, dh-make , debreate,...) No. He told me :ok you want to do a
> packet in python i have said yes and we don't have to do none error ( nous
> n'avons pas droit à l'erreur) . ok it's go and it's go for 4 hours and i
> have create (in fact we have create) the first deb of openshot. Be carrefull
> it's a test i have some little thinks to do and you too.  you can   see than
> we must create :
> a (little) man pages, change some name and type of files, put some adress
> of the team, put the "sheeban" on all the python files, put all the check
> files (it miss it like python-gtk2-dev for exemple), create a makefile (=man
> pages), put some informations,ect.. and we will have a .Deb  with all the
> rules in the way of Debian users (dans la regle de l'art des createurs de
> debian et de gnome) . We must see about some dependences like ffmpeg and
> x264 and i must create a deb for freior-plugins it doesn't exist. ,if we
> want to do the thinks the best . He had look the softaware like a lot of
> people so and We must done none errors, the world  is waiting our work.  In
> all cases, i have done a good meet (=rencontre) and i can ask him his help
> and a lot of information when i want. And it's certainly what i will done
> yet.
> It's an nice people. he had look the code and he had seen some lillte
> errors. But at 2 hours AM, after 4 hours, i was tired and also my wife was
> little angry.
> So you can tried it but for the moment don't tell at everybody than we have
> create a deb it 's a DRAFT.   I wish to know when you pass to another
> version, i m must note all the operation (find i my terminal) read some
> documenttions some informations missed me to his part, etc.... I want to
> know the exact relation with the dependances, if we use for ffmpeg and x264,
> (it's a big sstuck) . I'will create a deb for freior and mlt (to have the
> last version) and after if there is another, we will speak about.
> Me for the moment i must to find and write all the opérations and recreate
> another package (the real, the good)and after done one for freior and mlt to
> test. Sorry for today, i have done nothing i wasn't at home before
> 61/2-7hours pm. At the last week it's for me the holidays.
> i have seen on the web site than the translation will done on launchpad you
> tell me when we must begin (write me for the french don't forgot me!!!!)
> So i'll give you my first present (AAAAhhhhh!!!!!)
>  2009/7/20 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sounds good Helen!  I look forward to seeing the help manual branch.  Yes,
>> I will have to create a .DEB package for each dependency, unless I somehow
>> merge them into 1 super .deb installer. =)  I am using 2 programs to help
>> simply the .deb process.  1) *checkinstall* - for all the dependencies
>> 2) *Debian Package Maker *(for the python stuff).   It's a lot of work,
>> but I'm making good progress.  I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Also, thanks for replying to bugs, questions, and blog comments!  I really
>> appreciate the help.  I'm falling behind on my email inbox.  Once I get the
>> .deb stuff completed, I'll have more time to answer bugs, emails, etc...
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello helen
>>>
>>> About gtalk,it's simple (more than pidgin). When you are on firefox (for
>>> exemple) and on your account gmail, you have on your left a box call "chat".
>>> If you look at, you see ...you with a disponibility (yes green no red and
>>> you can modified it) and below you have the last personn  which have send
>>> you email. If you want to speak with one personn you clic on his "name" and
>>> a window on the right below will open. you click on you write and you valid
>>> and you wait, that's all.
>>>
>>> I'm not alone to fight with bazaar (i'm laugthing)!!!! i belive than you
>>> must keep a copy on your hard drive if i done a wrong  operation.
>>>
>>> You have done a very good and quick hard work. For the next week the beta
>>> and Me, who was thinking to be ready for .....christamas.
>>>
>>> I don't understand what is blueprint how walk  and what is it ?
>>>
>>> i have ask help at here<http://software.flogisoft.com/cover-thumbnailer/fr/#captures_ecran>how create a deb with python and he is very sympa because we are  tchating
>>> and try to create a deb (for a modele)
>>> So see you later (he is very quick )and yes we must creattee severals
>>> packages
>>> thcao olivier
>>>
>>> 2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> When I went on the gtalk site it said it was only available for
>>>> microsoft windoze. So I didn't go any further. I will have to look at
>>>> how to get onto gtalk next week because I'm concentrating on the manual
>>>> right now.
>>>>
>>>> I am going to try doing my first push to the help-manual branch later
>>>> this evening. I still need to do several things before that. This
>>>> includes working out how to configure bzr to use my login to Launchpad
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I've been studying the Jokosher code to see how they integrated with
>>>> Gnome Help. When I'm ready, I'll register a detailed blueprint for the
>>>> code changes.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't got the manual completely debianised yet, but much of it is
>>>> already done. I'm making it a package called openshot-docs.
>>>>
>>>> We should hopefully have the first beta release ready sometime next
>>>> week.
>>>>
>>>> The version numbering is following conventional Gnome Documentation
>>>> Project rules. This help manual is for running on Gnome 2, and so the
>>>> openshot-docs version number starts with a 2.
>>>>
>>>> So the first beta is called openshot-docs_2.0.1.deb
>>>>
>>>> I've been testing the manual in Yelp (Gnome Help)
>>>>
>>>> Until I've got a full installable .deb, the way to read the help manual
>>>> is to use the following command:
>>>>
>>>> yelp ghelp:/<full path to xml file>/openshot.xml
>>>>
>>>> You will find a file in there called "legal.xml". This file must remain
>>>> untouched so that we comply with the rules of the Gnome Documentation
>>>> Project.
>>>>
>>>> How is your debianisation going?
>>>>
>>>> I imagine you will have to produce custom .deb packages for each of the
>>>> libraries used, along with the .deb package for openshot itself?
>>>>
>>>> It looks like a lot of work initially!
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, Helen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 12:02 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>>>> > Helen, like Olivier mentioned, I think you have to have a gmail
>>>> > account to use it with pidgin.  On a side-note, gmail is the best
>>>> > email app I've ever used.  If you've never looked into it before, you
>>>> > should research it a bit.  I think you would like it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > -Jonathan
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >         Hello Helen
>>>> >         Thanks to answer at my questions
>>>> >         Very Good work and perhaps like you have sad we must open
>>>> >         another  branch  for the manuel. So we'll discuss with
>>>> >         jonathan.
>>>> >         i have seen the links but i 'm not yet go to see. But the
>>>> >         structure look simple (à 1ere vue)
>>>> >         You can talk in gmail with gtalk. you have only click with the
>>>> >         personn than you want.  For pidgin it's a little more
>>>> >         compliced. In fact not really (all is simple when you know but
>>>> >         not when it's the opposite). Look at the french or english
>>>> >         ubuntu documentation.
>>>> >          install pidgin with synaptic. run it and create a compte
>>>> >         gmail. in the essentail onglet :
>>>> >         protocole gtalk ou xmmp
>>>> >         tonlogin gmail
>>>> >         domaine gmail.com
>>>> >         ressource home par exemple don't matter
>>>> >         rentre ton mot de passe gmail
>>>> >         choisi tonlogo (taille 192*192)
>>>> >         coche la case audessus (je sais plus ce que c'est)
>>>> >         Dans l'ongelt avance
>>>> >         coche le 1er use ssl/tls
>>>> >         port connexion 5222(normalement ok)
>>>> >         serveur de connection talk.google.com
>>>> >         and that's all
>>>> >         reconnecte-le et tu doir avoir d'abord une prise (tentative de
>>>> >         connection) et quand c'est bon une bulle blanche avec un rond
>>>> >         vert.
>>>> >         @jonathan
>>>> >         for our conversation about cration .deb, try this programm
>>>> >         it's better than chekinstall and it's graphical and not only
>>>> >         ubuntu but for all debian. And with alien we can imagine
>>>> >         create some rpm!!!!!!
>>>> >         The link is here
>>>> >         Have you look for the creation .pot file. i'm thinking than we
>>>> >         'll have the software traduce in spanish french italian german
>>>> >         finnish.
>>>> >         See you later perhaps
>>>> >         Tchao Olivier
>>>> >
>>>> >         2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >                 Bonjour Olivier,
>>>> >
>>>> >                 I will answer all your questions. I will have to
>>>> >                 answer in English
>>>> >                 because my French is not good enough yet for some of
>>>> >                 what I will say.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 I will answer your questions in reverse order. I will
>>>> >                 start with your
>>>> >                 last question.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 The links at the end of our emails are because
>>>> >                 Jonathan and I are
>>>> >                 sending our emails through the Openshot.developers
>>>> >                 list server. This is
>>>> >                 the private email discussion list for the the OpenShot
>>>> >                 Developers team
>>>> >                 that you have joined.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 If you look at the message header for this email, you
>>>> >                 will see the Cc:
>>>> >                 line shows the email address to send to our Openshot
>>>> >                 Developers
>>>> >                 discussion list. Sending to this address ensures that
>>>> >                 all our team (5
>>>> >                 peaople) will be kept informed about what is happening
>>>> >                 on our project.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 About gtalk: I didn't know that you could access gtalk
>>>> >                 from Linux. I
>>>> >                 didn't know that you could use pidgin to do it. I will
>>>> >                 have to look at
>>>> >                 this next week so I can talk with you and Jonathan.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 About the new help-manual branch on launchpad:
>>>> >
>>>> >                 I will push the file system hierarchy to the
>>>> >                 help-manual branch soon. I
>>>> >                 am building the file system for this branch so that we
>>>> >                 will be able to
>>>> >                 automatically generate .deb package files from it at
>>>> >                 any point we like
>>>> >                 in the development of the help manual.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 I am at present writing the various control files
>>>> >                 needed to build and
>>>> >                 install the Help Manual as a Ubuntu/Debian package.
>>>> >                 When I have tested
>>>> >                 this to ensure it works safely, I will push this file
>>>> >                 system and the
>>>> >                 outline stage of the manual to the help-manual branch.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 Then you will be able to download the package file
>>>> >                 system and files to
>>>> >                 your computer.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 When we get to that point, we will be able to discuss
>>>> >                 with Jonathan the
>>>> >                 best way for us to all work on this manual.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 We might either have a separate
>>>> >                 help-manual-<developers-name> branch
>>>> >                 which I can merge together at agreed intervals, or we
>>>> >                 might have an
>>>> >                 agreed work plan of who works on what part at what
>>>> >                 time on one branch.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 We can discuss this with Jonathan next week when I
>>>> >                 have the basic debian
>>>> >                 package structure up on Launchpad.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 In the meanwhile, if you practice using Docbook XML to
>>>> >                 write Gnome Help
>>>> >                 files, and read the links on the Gnome Documentation
>>>> >                 Project which you
>>>> >                 will find on the link I sent you, you will then
>>>> >                 understand more of what
>>>> >                 we are going to be doing.
>>>> >
>>>> >                 Tchao, Helen
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >                 On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 21:37 +0200, Olivier Girard
>>>> >                 wrote:
>>>> >                 > Hello and thanks a lot for your help.
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 > It's exactly that i don't know familar with bazaar
>>>> >                 and, launchpad and
>>>> >                 > participate in a project in fact. All It's new for
>>>> >                 me.
>>>> >                 >  It's very nice to your part to help me. I have
>>>> >                 generated  my key, i
>>>> >                 > have sucessed to be identified between bazaar and
>>>> >                 launchpad but i
>>>> >                 > can't have access to help-manuel. I'have read all
>>>> >                 your links and
>>>> >                 > othersbut i have an error :
>>>> >                 >  bzr: ERROR: Target directory
>>>> >                 > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual already
>>>> >                 exists, but does
>>>> >                 > not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply
>>>> >                 --use-existing-dir to push
>>>> >                 > there anyway.
>>>> >                 > In fact i don't undersand something, According to
>>>> >                 the doc, i must
>>>> >                 > create a branch to have acces at another. To have
>>>> >                 the code, i have
>>>> >                 > understand but to participate really no.
>>>> >                 > Ten minutes after this words, i have done something
>>>> >                 and i have now a
>>>> >                 > folder help-manuel empty, that's normal ? So now i
>>>> >                 have a folder for
>>>> >                 > the help-manual and the software.
>>>> >                 > In all cases, it's not my day.
>>>> >                 > I have tried to create a virtualization of two
>>>> >                 ubuntu (32 and 64 )
>>>> >                 > that's out.
>>>> >                 > I have tried the new version (0.94), it's the same
>>>> >                 thing (it's crashed
>>>> >                 > when i import a file!!!)
>>>> >                 > i have play with openshot (old version i have yet
>>>> >                 acces thanks to
>>>> >                 > helen) and i don't find how have more time with the
>>>> >                 transitions
>>>> >                 > i have not all understand with bazaar
>>>> >                 > Thes points positif are for lprod (it a good new
>>>> >                 because the software
>>>> >                 > has been to test without my intervention, i have
>>>> >                 said that the french
>>>> >                 > communauty have seen the first post on sum-up) and
>>>> >                 the second i have
>>>> >                 > modified the french page of wikipedia on
>>>> >                 AVCHD.(another thing that
>>>> >                 > i've never done).
>>>> >                 > I 'm reading the dockbook and for the moment, i
>>>> >                 understand, it 's a
>>>> >                 > good point.
>>>> >                 > Now, i'm going to rip a little film that i have done
>>>> >                 this morning
>>>> >                 > about my little river which will complate the film
>>>> >                 about my little
>>>> >                 > cat.
>>>> >                 > If you want speak on gtalk, you can (and i have
>>>> >                 success to work
>>>> >                 > pidgin).
>>>> >                 > Tchao
>>>> >                 > Olivier
>>>> >                 > Oh another last question: how you do to have at the
>>>> >                 end all the links
>>>> >                 > like this:
>>>> >                 > Mailing list:
>>>> >                 https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>> >                 > Post to     :
>>>> >                 openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >                 > Unsubscribe :
>>>> >                 https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>> >                 > More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 > 2009/7/18 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >                 >         Thanks for that Jonathan,
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         I'll have a look at it tomorrow or Sunday.
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         I think Olivier means he needs to generate a
>>>> >                 key first so he
>>>> >                 >         can upload
>>>> >                 >         to Launchpad. I generated my key when I
>>>> >                 first registered.
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         I took a break from XML coding, and got to
>>>> >                 work on building
>>>> >                 >         the correct
>>>> >                 >         form of directory structure to base the
>>>> >                 whole documentation
>>>> >                 >         package on.
>>>> >                 >         I've started writing the Makefiles and other
>>>> >                 control and
>>>> >                 >         information
>>>> >                 >         files needed.
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         It is coming along slowly because I'm having
>>>> >                 to learn how to
>>>> >                 >         do things
>>>> >                 >         at every stage. :~)
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         I keep wondering what comments this Manual
>>>> >                 will get from
>>>> >                 >         66666er! I
>>>> >                 >         suspect that kid is aged 13 and 3/4!
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         I'm going to bed now because I'm exhausted.
>>>> >                 I'm getting up
>>>> >                 >         early
>>>> >                 >         tomorrow to go out with a friend.
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         Tchao, Helen
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >
>>>> >                 >         On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:21 -0500, Jonathan
>>>> >                 Thomas wrote:
>>>> >                 >         > I'm not sure if you are familiar with
>>>> >                 bazaar (the source
>>>> >                 >         control in
>>>> >                 >         > LaunchPad).  You need to create a local
>>>> >                 bzr repository with
>>>> >                 >         your
>>>> >                 >         > folder / files.  Then commit your changes
>>>> >                 locally.  And
>>>> >                 >         finally, push
>>>> >                 >         > your local commits to your new branch:
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         > After you get it setup, you only have to
>>>> >                 commit changes, and
>>>> >                 >         push them
>>>> >                 >         > back to bazaar.  It's quite easy after
>>>> >                 it's all setup.
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         > Bazaar in 5 minutes:
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >
>>>> http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         > Thanks,
>>>> >                 >         > -Jonathan
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Olivier
>>>> >                 Girard
>>>> >                 >         <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >                 >         > wrote:
>>>> >                 >         >         Helen
>>>> >                 >         >         That's good i have found (i'm
>>>> >                 thinking) but we must
>>>> >                 >         have a key
>>>> >                 >         >         for upload the manuel.
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >         Olivier
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >         2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>>>> >                 <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >                 >         >                 Helen
>>>> >                 >         >                 Sorry i'm now on launchpad
>>>> >                 but i don't find
>>>> >                 >         the new
>>>> >                 >         >                 branch for the manuel.
>>>> >                 >         >                 Olivier
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>>>> >                 >         <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                         Helen
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                         It's a very good
>>>> >                 job. i have a
>>>> >                 >         little speak on
>>>> >                 >         >                         gtalk with
>>>> >                 jonathan for the first
>>>> >                 >         time. Now he
>>>> >                 >         >                         have a meeting but
>>>> >                 Would you join
>>>> >                 >         us. But how
>>>> >                 >         >                         at tree, i don't
>>>> >                 know.  We could
>>>> >                 >         speak about
>>>> >                 >         >                         the manuel.
>>>> >                 >         >                         Olivier
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                         2009/7/17 Helen
>>>> >                 McCall
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Good
>>>> >                 thinking!
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 I'll add
>>>> >                 you to the
>>>> >                 >         Authors. :-)
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Tchao,
>>>> >                 Helen
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 On Fri,
>>>> >                 2009-07-17 at 14:41
>>>> >                 >         -0500,
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Jonathan
>>>> >                 Thomas wrote:
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > Sounds
>>>> >                 great Helen!  Let
>>>> >                 >         me know
>>>> >                 >         >                                 once you
>>>> >                 publish your files
>>>> >                 >         into the
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 help-manual branch.  Also,
>>>> >                 >         I would
>>>> >                 >         >                                 be happy
>>>> >                 to author some of
>>>> >                 >         the
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > sections
>>>> >                 of the
>>>> >                 >         help-manual, once I
>>>> >                 >         >                                 get some
>>>> >                 free time.  Once we
>>>> >                 >         are
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > all
>>>> >                 happy with the
>>>> >                 >         structure of the
>>>> >                 >         >                                 manual,
>>>> >                 maybe we could split
>>>> >                 >         up
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > some of
>>>> >                 the sections and
>>>> >                 >         double-team
>>>> >                 >         >                                 it.
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > Also, I
>>>> >                 have 70+ blog
>>>> >                 >         entries on
>>>> >                 >         >                                 OpenShot,
>>>> >                 covering all sorts
>>>> >                 >         of
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > topics.
>>>> >                  Lots of
>>>> >                 >         screenshots also.
>>>> >                 >         >                                  Even
>>>> >                 though it's written in
>>>> >                 >         a
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 different style than a
>>>> >                 >         help manual,
>>>> >                 >         >                                 hopefully
>>>> >                 we will be able to
>>>> >                 >         use
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > some of
>>>> >                 that content.
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > Thanks!
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 -Jonathan
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 > On Fri,
>>>> >                 Jul 17, 2009 at
>>>> >                 >         2:23 PM,
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Helen
>>>> >                 McCall
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Hello Olivier and
>>>> >                 >         Jonathan,
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 I'm making
>>>> >                 >         progress setting
>>>> >                 >         >                                 out the
>>>> >                 structure in Gnome
>>>> >                 >         Help
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 format
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 (Docbook XML), and
>>>> >                 >         I'm
>>>> >                 >         >                                 testing it
>>>> >                 in the Gnome Help
>>>> >                 >         system
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 (Yelp) as I'm
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 going.
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 I'm using
>>>> >                 >         Jonathan's screen
>>>> >                 >         >                                 shots for
>>>> >                 now to save time.
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 I've put in
>>>> >                 >         credits:
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Authors: Helen
>>>> >                 >         McCall and
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Olivier
>>>> >                 Girard
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Contributor:
>>>> >                 >         Jonathan Thomas
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Translator:
>>>> >                 >         Olivier Girard
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 OpenShot
>>>> >                 >         Developer: Jonathan
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Thomas
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 OpenShot
>>>> >                 >         Contributor: Andy
>>>> >                 >         >                                 Finch for
>>>> >                 the titling
>>>> >                 >         system.
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Manual Copyright:
>>>> >                 >         Helen
>>>> >                 >         >                                 McCall,
>>>> >                 Olivier Girard,
>>>> >                 >         Jonathan
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Thomas 2009
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Publisher: Gnome
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 Documentation Project
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 I've registered a
>>>> >                 >         new branch
>>>> >                 >         >                                 in
>>>> >                 launchpad for the Manual:
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >
>>>> >                 >         lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 I've set the
>>>> >                 >         "owner" to
>>>> >                 >         >                                 "OpenShot
>>>> >                 Developers" so we
>>>> >                 >         can all
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 access it.
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 >         >                                 >
>>>> >                 Tchao, Helen
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>>>> >                 >         >                         Cenwen un elfe sur
>>>> >                 la banquise
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>>>> >                 >         >
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>>>> >                 >         >                 --
>>>> >                 >         >                 Cenwen un elfe sur la
>>>> >                 banquise
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>>>> >                 >         >         Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise
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>>>> >                 > Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise
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