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Re: OpenShot Help Manual - 4th progress report
I's me again
Be carrefull when you tried it, me if i have one word to tell you, tried it
on virtualization, it can broken your installation. you can be safe whith no
and after sudo apt-get install -f
See you later perhaps
Thanks ( i have forgotten)
Olivier
Ps i have found on pidgin to have all the conversation,( i'm safe)
2009/7/20 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Hello Jonathan
>
> i have learn to create a .deb for all architectures at the hand yesterday
> or rather this morning. i have ask help on the ubuntufr forum at a blogger
> which has create a little program in python for nautilus : cover thumbnailer
> (very nice than you can find here<http://software.flogisoft.com/cover-thumbnailer/fr/>
> .It's along history which has finished after 31/2-4 hours after on gtalk.If
> there are 2 days ago, don't work with now i m a pro, i can upload files,
> tchat with 2 personns in the main time (with helen and it's hard to have 2
> conversations on different object). It's was a good experience to speak with
> Helen. Perhaps today.
>
> i have a lot of chance to have a nice people like Flozz. i like this
> software and i ask him if i can help me to tell me how create a .deb. in few
> minutes he tell me to contact him like i want, i have choose gtalk (it's
> better than a email, and
> a word). i was thinking than he was only explain how method
> (checktinstall, dh-make , debreate,...) No. He told me :ok you want to do a
> packet in python i have said yes and we don't have to do none error ( nous
> n'avons pas droit à l'erreur) . ok it's go and it's go for 4 hours and i
> have create (in fact we have create) the first deb of openshot. Be carrefull
> it's a test i have some little thinks to do and you too. you can see than
> we must create :
> a (little) man pages, change some name and type of files, put some adress
> of the team, put the "sheeban" on all the python files, put all the check
> files (it miss it like python-gtk2-dev for exemple), create a makefile (=man
> pages), put some informations,ect.. and we will have a .Deb with all the
> rules in the way of Debian users (dans la regle de l'art des createurs de
> debian et de gnome) . We must see about some dependences like ffmpeg and
> x264 and i must create a deb for freior-plugins it doesn't exist. ,if we
> want to do the thinks the best . He had look the softaware like a lot of
> people so and We must done none errors, the world is waiting our work. In
> all cases, i have done a good meet (=rencontre) and i can ask him his help
> and a lot of information when i want. And it's certainly what i will done
> yet.
> It's an nice people. he had look the code and he had seen some lillte
> errors. But at 2 hours AM, after 4 hours, i was tired and also my wife was
> little angry.
> So you can tried it but for the moment don't tell at everybody than we have
> create a deb it 's a DRAFT. I wish to know when you pass to another
> version, i m must note all the operation (find i my terminal) read some
> documenttions some informations missed me to his part, etc.... I want to
> know the exact relation with the dependances, if we use for ffmpeg and x264,
> (it's a big sstuck) . I'will create a deb for freior and mlt (to have the
> last version) and after if there is another, we will speak about.
> Me for the moment i must to find and write all the opérations and recreate
> another package (the real, the good)and after done one for freior and mlt to
> test. Sorry for today, i have done nothing i wasn't at home before
> 61/2-7hours pm. At the last week it's for me the holidays.
> i have seen on the web site than the translation will done on launchpad you
> tell me when we must begin (write me for the french don't forgot me!!!!)
> So i'll give you my first present (AAAAhhhhh!!!!!)
> 2009/7/20 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sounds good Helen! I look forward to seeing the help manual branch. Yes,
>> I will have to create a .DEB package for each dependency, unless I somehow
>> merge them into 1 super .deb installer. =) I am using 2 programs to help
>> simply the .deb process. 1) *checkinstall* - for all the dependencies
>> 2) *Debian Package Maker *(for the python stuff). It's a lot of work,
>> but I'm making good progress. I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Also, thanks for replying to bugs, questions, and blog comments! I really
>> appreciate the help. I'm falling behind on my email inbox. Once I get the
>> .deb stuff completed, I'll have more time to answer bugs, emails, etc...
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello helen
>>>
>>> About gtalk,it's simple (more than pidgin). When you are on firefox (for
>>> exemple) and on your account gmail, you have on your left a box call "chat".
>>> If you look at, you see ...you with a disponibility (yes green no red and
>>> you can modified it) and below you have the last personn which have send
>>> you email. If you want to speak with one personn you clic on his "name" and
>>> a window on the right below will open. you click on you write and you valid
>>> and you wait, that's all.
>>>
>>> I'm not alone to fight with bazaar (i'm laugthing)!!!! i belive than you
>>> must keep a copy on your hard drive if i done a wrong operation.
>>>
>>> You have done a very good and quick hard work. For the next week the beta
>>> and Me, who was thinking to be ready for .....christamas.
>>>
>>> I don't understand what is blueprint how walk and what is it ?
>>>
>>> i have ask help at here<http://software.flogisoft.com/cover-thumbnailer/fr/#captures_ecran>how create a deb with python and he is very sympa because we are tchating
>>> and try to create a deb (for a modele)
>>> So see you later (he is very quick )and yes we must creattee severals
>>> packages
>>> thcao olivier
>>>
>>> 2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> When I went on the gtalk site it said it was only available for
>>>> microsoft windoze. So I didn't go any further. I will have to look at
>>>> how to get onto gtalk next week because I'm concentrating on the manual
>>>> right now.
>>>>
>>>> I am going to try doing my first push to the help-manual branch later
>>>> this evening. I still need to do several things before that. This
>>>> includes working out how to configure bzr to use my login to Launchpad
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I've been studying the Jokosher code to see how they integrated with
>>>> Gnome Help. When I'm ready, I'll register a detailed blueprint for the
>>>> code changes.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't got the manual completely debianised yet, but much of it is
>>>> already done. I'm making it a package called openshot-docs.
>>>>
>>>> We should hopefully have the first beta release ready sometime next
>>>> week.
>>>>
>>>> The version numbering is following conventional Gnome Documentation
>>>> Project rules. This help manual is for running on Gnome 2, and so the
>>>> openshot-docs version number starts with a 2.
>>>>
>>>> So the first beta is called openshot-docs_2.0.1.deb
>>>>
>>>> I've been testing the manual in Yelp (Gnome Help)
>>>>
>>>> Until I've got a full installable .deb, the way to read the help manual
>>>> is to use the following command:
>>>>
>>>> yelp ghelp:/<full path to xml file>/openshot.xml
>>>>
>>>> You will find a file in there called "legal.xml". This file must remain
>>>> untouched so that we comply with the rules of the Gnome Documentation
>>>> Project.
>>>>
>>>> How is your debianisation going?
>>>>
>>>> I imagine you will have to produce custom .deb packages for each of the
>>>> libraries used, along with the .deb package for openshot itself?
>>>>
>>>> It looks like a lot of work initially!
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, Helen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 12:02 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>>>> > Helen, like Olivier mentioned, I think you have to have a gmail
>>>> > account to use it with pidgin. On a side-note, gmail is the best
>>>> > email app I've ever used. If you've never looked into it before, you
>>>> > should research it a bit. I think you would like it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > -Jonathan
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > Hello Helen
>>>> > Thanks to answer at my questions
>>>> > Very Good work and perhaps like you have sad we must open
>>>> > another branch for the manuel. So we'll discuss with
>>>> > jonathan.
>>>> > i have seen the links but i 'm not yet go to see. But the
>>>> > structure look simple (à 1ere vue)
>>>> > You can talk in gmail with gtalk. you have only click with the
>>>> > personn than you want. For pidgin it's a little more
>>>> > compliced. In fact not really (all is simple when you know but
>>>> > not when it's the opposite). Look at the french or english
>>>> > ubuntu documentation.
>>>> > install pidgin with synaptic. run it and create a compte
>>>> > gmail. in the essentail onglet :
>>>> > protocole gtalk ou xmmp
>>>> > tonlogin gmail
>>>> > domaine gmail.com
>>>> > ressource home par exemple don't matter
>>>> > rentre ton mot de passe gmail
>>>> > choisi tonlogo (taille 192*192)
>>>> > coche la case audessus (je sais plus ce que c'est)
>>>> > Dans l'ongelt avance
>>>> > coche le 1er use ssl/tls
>>>> > port connexion 5222(normalement ok)
>>>> > serveur de connection talk.google.com
>>>> > and that's all
>>>> > reconnecte-le et tu doir avoir d'abord une prise (tentative de
>>>> > connection) et quand c'est bon une bulle blanche avec un rond
>>>> > vert.
>>>> > @jonathan
>>>> > for our conversation about cration .deb, try this programm
>>>> > it's better than chekinstall and it's graphical and not only
>>>> > ubuntu but for all debian. And with alien we can imagine
>>>> > create some rpm!!!!!!
>>>> > The link is here
>>>> > Have you look for the creation .pot file. i'm thinking than we
>>>> > 'll have the software traduce in spanish french italian german
>>>> > finnish.
>>>> > See you later perhaps
>>>> > Tchao Olivier
>>>> >
>>>> > 2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Bonjour Olivier,
>>>> >
>>>> > I will answer all your questions. I will have to
>>>> > answer in English
>>>> > because my French is not good enough yet for some of
>>>> > what I will say.
>>>> >
>>>> > I will answer your questions in reverse order. I will
>>>> > start with your
>>>> > last question.
>>>> >
>>>> > The links at the end of our emails are because
>>>> > Jonathan and I are
>>>> > sending our emails through the Openshot.developers
>>>> > list server. This is
>>>> > the private email discussion list for the the OpenShot
>>>> > Developers team
>>>> > that you have joined.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you look at the message header for this email, you
>>>> > will see the Cc:
>>>> > line shows the email address to send to our Openshot
>>>> > Developers
>>>> > discussion list. Sending to this address ensures that
>>>> > all our team (5
>>>> > peaople) will be kept informed about what is happening
>>>> > on our project.
>>>> >
>>>> > About gtalk: I didn't know that you could access gtalk
>>>> > from Linux. I
>>>> > didn't know that you could use pidgin to do it. I will
>>>> > have to look at
>>>> > this next week so I can talk with you and Jonathan.
>>>> >
>>>> > About the new help-manual branch on launchpad:
>>>> >
>>>> > I will push the file system hierarchy to the
>>>> > help-manual branch soon. I
>>>> > am building the file system for this branch so that we
>>>> > will be able to
>>>> > automatically generate .deb package files from it at
>>>> > any point we like
>>>> > in the development of the help manual.
>>>> >
>>>> > I am at present writing the various control files
>>>> > needed to build and
>>>> > install the Help Manual as a Ubuntu/Debian package.
>>>> > When I have tested
>>>> > this to ensure it works safely, I will push this file
>>>> > system and the
>>>> > outline stage of the manual to the help-manual branch.
>>>> >
>>>> > Then you will be able to download the package file
>>>> > system and files to
>>>> > your computer.
>>>> >
>>>> > When we get to that point, we will be able to discuss
>>>> > with Jonathan the
>>>> > best way for us to all work on this manual.
>>>> >
>>>> > We might either have a separate
>>>> > help-manual-<developers-name> branch
>>>> > which I can merge together at agreed intervals, or we
>>>> > might have an
>>>> > agreed work plan of who works on what part at what
>>>> > time on one branch.
>>>> >
>>>> > We can discuss this with Jonathan next week when I
>>>> > have the basic debian
>>>> > package structure up on Launchpad.
>>>> >
>>>> > In the meanwhile, if you practice using Docbook XML to
>>>> > write Gnome Help
>>>> > files, and read the links on the Gnome Documentation
>>>> > Project which you
>>>> > will find on the link I sent you, you will then
>>>> > understand more of what
>>>> > we are going to be doing.
>>>> >
>>>> > Tchao, Helen
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 21:37 +0200, Olivier Girard
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > > Hello and thanks a lot for your help.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > It's exactly that i don't know familar with bazaar
>>>> > and, launchpad and
>>>> > > participate in a project in fact. All It's new for
>>>> > me.
>>>> > > It's very nice to your part to help me. I have
>>>> > generated my key, i
>>>> > > have sucessed to be identified between bazaar and
>>>> > launchpad but i
>>>> > > can't have access to help-manuel. I'have read all
>>>> > your links and
>>>> > > othersbut i have an error :
>>>> > > bzr: ERROR: Target directory
>>>> > > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual already
>>>> > exists, but does
>>>> > > not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply
>>>> > --use-existing-dir to push
>>>> > > there anyway.
>>>> > > In fact i don't undersand something, According to
>>>> > the doc, i must
>>>> > > create a branch to have acces at another. To have
>>>> > the code, i have
>>>> > > understand but to participate really no.
>>>> > > Ten minutes after this words, i have done something
>>>> > and i have now a
>>>> > > folder help-manuel empty, that's normal ? So now i
>>>> > have a folder for
>>>> > > the help-manual and the software.
>>>> > > In all cases, it's not my day.
>>>> > > I have tried to create a virtualization of two
>>>> > ubuntu (32 and 64 )
>>>> > > that's out.
>>>> > > I have tried the new version (0.94), it's the same
>>>> > thing (it's crashed
>>>> > > when i import a file!!!)
>>>> > > i have play with openshot (old version i have yet
>>>> > acces thanks to
>>>> > > helen) and i don't find how have more time with the
>>>> > transitions
>>>> > > i have not all understand with bazaar
>>>> > > Thes points positif are for lprod (it a good new
>>>> > because the software
>>>> > > has been to test without my intervention, i have
>>>> > said that the french
>>>> > > communauty have seen the first post on sum-up) and
>>>> > the second i have
>>>> > > modified the french page of wikipedia on
>>>> > AVCHD.(another thing that
>>>> > > i've never done).
>>>> > > I 'm reading the dockbook and for the moment, i
>>>> > understand, it 's a
>>>> > > good point.
>>>> > > Now, i'm going to rip a little film that i have done
>>>> > this morning
>>>> > > about my little river which will complate the film
>>>> > about my little
>>>> > > cat.
>>>> > > If you want speak on gtalk, you can (and i have
>>>> > success to work
>>>> > > pidgin).
>>>> > > Tchao
>>>> > > Olivier
>>>> > > Oh another last question: how you do to have at the
>>>> > end all the links
>>>> > > like this:
>>>> > > Mailing list:
>>>> > https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>> > > Post to :
>>>> > openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > Unsubscribe :
>>>> > https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 2009/7/18 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > > Thanks for that Jonathan,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'll have a look at it tomorrow or Sunday.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I think Olivier means he needs to generate a
>>>> > key first so he
>>>> > > can upload
>>>> > > to Launchpad. I generated my key when I
>>>> > first registered.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I took a break from XML coding, and got to
>>>> > work on building
>>>> > > the correct
>>>> > > form of directory structure to base the
>>>> > whole documentation
>>>> > > package on.
>>>> > > I've started writing the Makefiles and other
>>>> > control and
>>>> > > information
>>>> > > files needed.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > It is coming along slowly because I'm having
>>>> > to learn how to
>>>> > > do things
>>>> > > at every stage. :~)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I keep wondering what comments this Manual
>>>> > will get from
>>>> > > 66666er! I
>>>> > > suspect that kid is aged 13 and 3/4!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm going to bed now because I'm exhausted.
>>>> > I'm getting up
>>>> > > early
>>>> > > tomorrow to go out with a friend.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Tchao, Helen
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:21 -0500, Jonathan
>>>> > Thomas wrote:
>>>> > > > I'm not sure if you are familiar with
>>>> > bazaar (the source
>>>> > > control in
>>>> > > > LaunchPad). You need to create a local
>>>> > bzr repository with
>>>> > > your
>>>> > > > folder / files. Then commit your changes
>>>> > locally. And
>>>> > > finally, push
>>>> > > > your local commits to your new branch:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > After you get it setup, you only have to
>>>> > commit changes, and
>>>> > > push them
>>>> > > > back to bazaar. It's quite easy after
>>>> > it's all setup.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Bazaar in 5 minutes:
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Thanks,
>>>> > > > -Jonathan
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Olivier
>>>> > Girard
>>>> > > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > Helen
>>>> > > > That's good i have found (i'm
>>>> > thinking) but we must
>>>> > > have a key
>>>> > > > for upload the manuel.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>>>> > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > > > Helen
>>>> > > > Sorry i'm now on launchpad
>>>> > but i don't find
>>>> > > the new
>>>> > > > branch for the manuel.
>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>>>> > > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Helen
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > It's a very good
>>>> > job. i have a
>>>> > > little speak on
>>>> > > > gtalk with
>>>> > jonathan for the first
>>>> > > time. Now he
>>>> > > > have a meeting but
>>>> > Would you join
>>>> > > us. But how
>>>> > > > at tree, i don't
>>>> > know. We could
>>>> > > speak about
>>>> > > > the manuel.
>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > 2009/7/17 Helen
>>>> > McCall
>>>> > > >
>>>> > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Good
>>>> > thinking!
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I'll add
>>>> > you to the
>>>> > > Authors. :-)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Tchao,
>>>> > Helen
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Fri,
>>>> > 2009-07-17 at 14:41
>>>> > > -0500,
>>>> > > > Jonathan
>>>> > Thomas wrote:
>>>> > > > > Sounds
>>>> > great Helen! Let
>>>> > > me know
>>>> > > > once you
>>>> > publish your files
>>>> > > into the
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > help-manual branch. Also,
>>>> > > I would
>>>> > > > be happy
>>>> > to author some of
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > sections
>>>> > of the
>>>> > > help-manual, once I
>>>> > > > get some
>>>> > free time. Once we
>>>> > > are
>>>> > > > > all
>>>> > happy with the
>>>> > > structure of the
>>>> > > > manual,
>>>> > maybe we could split
>>>> > > up
>>>> > > > > some of
>>>> > the sections and
>>>> > > double-team
>>>> > > > it.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Also, I
>>>> > have 70+ blog
>>>> > > entries on
>>>> > > > OpenShot,
>>>> > covering all sorts
>>>> > > of
>>>> > > > > topics.
>>>> > Lots of
>>>> > > screenshots also.
>>>> > > > Even
>>>> > though it's written in
>>>> > > a
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > different style than a
>>>> > > help manual,
>>>> > > > hopefully
>>>> > we will be able to
>>>> > > use
>>>> > > > > some of
>>>> > that content.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Thanks!
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > -Jonathan
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On Fri,
>>>> > Jul 17, 2009 at
>>>> > > 2:23 PM,
>>>> > > > Helen
>>>> > McCall
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Hello Olivier and
>>>> > > Jonathan,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > I'm making
>>>> > > progress setting
>>>> > > > out the
>>>> > structure in Gnome
>>>> > > Help
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > format
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > (Docbook XML), and
>>>> > > I'm
>>>> > > > testing it
>>>> > in the Gnome Help
>>>> > > system
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > (Yelp) as I'm
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > going.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > I'm using
>>>> > > Jonathan's screen
>>>> > > > shots for
>>>> > now to save time.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > I've put in
>>>> > > credits:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Authors: Helen
>>>> > > McCall and
>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>> > Girard
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Contributor:
>>>> > > Jonathan Thomas
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Translator:
>>>> > > Olivier Girard
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > OpenShot
>>>> > > Developer: Jonathan
>>>> > > > Thomas
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > OpenShot
>>>> > > Contributor: Andy
>>>> > > > Finch for
>>>> > the titling
>>>> > > system.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Manual Copyright:
>>>> > > Helen
>>>> > > > McCall,
>>>> > Olivier Girard,
>>>> > > Jonathan
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Thomas 2009
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Publisher: Gnome
>>>> > > >
>>>> > Documentation Project
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > I've registered a
>>>> > > new branch
>>>> > > > in
>>>> > launchpad for the Manual:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > I've set the
>>>> > > "owner" to
>>>> > > > "OpenShot
>>>> > Developers" so we
>>>> > > can all
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > access it.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > Tchao, Helen
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > > Mailing
>>>> > list:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>> > > > Post to
>>>> > :
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > >
>>>> > Unsubscribe :
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>> > > > More help
>>>> > :
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>> > > >
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