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Re: OpenShot Help Manual - 4th progress report
hello Helen
Sorry but you have done a great work, when you are ready tell me "je
m'arracherai les cheveux avec bazaar" i will have no hair with bazaar.
Best wishes, Helen
2009/7/20 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
> I's me again
> Be carrefull when you tried it, me if i have one word to tell you, tried it
> on virtualization, it can broken your installation. you can be safe whith no
> and after sudo apt-get install -f
>
> See you later perhaps
> Thanks ( i have forgotten)
> Olivier
> Ps i have found on pidgin to have all the conversation,( i'm safe)
> 2009/7/20 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hello Jonathan
>>
>> i have learn to create a .deb for all architectures at the hand yesterday
>> or rather this morning. i have ask help on the ubuntufr forum at a blogger
>> which has create a little program in python for nautilus : cover thumbnailer
>> (very nice than you can find here<http://software.flogisoft.com/cover-thumbnailer/fr/>
>> .It's along history which has finished after 31/2-4 hours after on gtalk.If
>> there are 2 days ago, don't work with now i m a pro, i can upload files,
>> tchat with 2 personns in the main time (with helen and it's hard to have 2
>> conversations on different object). It's was a good experience to speak with
>> Helen. Perhaps today.
>>
>> i have a lot of chance to have a nice people like Flozz. i like this
>> software and i ask him if i can help me to tell me how create a .deb. in few
>> minutes he tell me to contact him like i want, i have choose gtalk (it's
>> better than a email, and
>> a word). i was thinking than he was only explain how method
>> (checktinstall, dh-make , debreate,...) No. He told me :ok you want to do a
>> packet in python i have said yes and we don't have to do none error ( nous
>> n'avons pas droit à l'erreur) . ok it's go and it's go for 4 hours and i
>> have create (in fact we have create) the first deb of openshot. Be carrefull
>> it's a test i have some little thinks to do and you too. you can see than
>> we must create :
>> a (little) man pages, change some name and type of files, put some adress
>> of the team, put the "sheeban" on all the python files, put all the check
>> files (it miss it like python-gtk2-dev for exemple), create a makefile (=man
>> pages), put some informations,ect.. and we will have a .Deb with all the
>> rules in the way of Debian users (dans la regle de l'art des createurs de
>> debian et de gnome) . We must see about some dependences like ffmpeg and
>> x264 and i must create a deb for freior-plugins it doesn't exist. ,if we
>> want to do the thinks the best . He had look the softaware like a lot of
>> people so and We must done none errors, the world is waiting our work. In
>> all cases, i have done a good meet (=rencontre) and i can ask him his help
>> and a lot of information when i want. And it's certainly what i will done
>> yet.
>> It's an nice people. he had look the code and he had seen some lillte
>> errors. But at 2 hours AM, after 4 hours, i was tired and also my wife was
>> little angry.
>> So you can tried it but for the moment don't tell at everybody than we
>> have create a deb it 's a DRAFT. I wish to know when you pass to another
>> version, i m must note all the operation (find i my terminal) read some
>> documenttions some informations missed me to his part, etc.... I want to
>> know the exact relation with the dependances, if we use for ffmpeg and x264,
>> (it's a big sstuck) . I'will create a deb for freior and mlt (to have the
>> last version) and after if there is another, we will speak about.
>> Me for the moment i must to find and write all the opérations and recreate
>> another package (the real, the good)and after done one for freior and mlt to
>> test. Sorry for today, i have done nothing i wasn't at home before
>> 61/2-7hours pm. At the last week it's for me the holidays.
>> i have seen on the web site than the translation will done on launchpad
>> you tell me when we must begin (write me for the french don't forgot me!!!!)
>>
>> So i'll give you my first present (AAAAhhhhh!!!!!)
>> 2009/7/20 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Sounds good Helen! I look forward to seeing the help manual branch. Yes,
>>> I will have to create a .DEB package for each dependency, unless I somehow
>>> merge them into 1 super .deb installer. =) I am using 2 programs to help
>>> simply the .deb process. 1) *checkinstall* - for all the dependencies
>>> 2) *Debian Package Maker *(for the python stuff). It's a lot of work,
>>> but I'm making good progress. I'll keep you posted.
>>>
>>> Also, thanks for replying to bugs, questions, and blog comments! I
>>> really appreciate the help. I'm falling behind on my email inbox. Once I
>>> get the .deb stuff completed, I'll have more time to answer bugs, emails,
>>> etc... Thanks again!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello helen
>>>>
>>>> About gtalk,it's simple (more than pidgin). When you are on firefox (for
>>>> exemple) and on your account gmail, you have on your left a box call "chat".
>>>> If you look at, you see ...you with a disponibility (yes green no red and
>>>> you can modified it) and below you have the last personn which have send
>>>> you email. If you want to speak with one personn you clic on his "name" and
>>>> a window on the right below will open. you click on you write and you valid
>>>> and you wait, that's all.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not alone to fight with bazaar (i'm laugthing)!!!! i belive than you
>>>> must keep a copy on your hard drive if i done a wrong operation.
>>>>
>>>> You have done a very good and quick hard work. For the next week the
>>>> beta and Me, who was thinking to be ready for .....christamas.
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand what is blueprint how walk and what is it ?
>>>>
>>>> i have ask help at here<http://software.flogisoft.com/cover-thumbnailer/fr/#captures_ecran>how create a deb with python and he is very sympa because we are tchating
>>>> and try to create a deb (for a modele)
>>>> So see you later (he is very quick )and yes we must creattee severals
>>>> packages
>>>> thcao olivier
>>>>
>>>> 2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> When I went on the gtalk site it said it was only available for
>>>>> microsoft windoze. So I didn't go any further. I will have to look at
>>>>> how to get onto gtalk next week because I'm concentrating on the manual
>>>>> right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to try doing my first push to the help-manual branch later
>>>>> this evening. I still need to do several things before that. This
>>>>> includes working out how to configure bzr to use my login to Launchpad
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been studying the Jokosher code to see how they integrated with
>>>>> Gnome Help. When I'm ready, I'll register a detailed blueprint for the
>>>>> code changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't got the manual completely debianised yet, but much of it is
>>>>> already done. I'm making it a package called openshot-docs.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should hopefully have the first beta release ready sometime next
>>>>> week.
>>>>>
>>>>> The version numbering is following conventional Gnome Documentation
>>>>> Project rules. This help manual is for running on Gnome 2, and so the
>>>>> openshot-docs version number starts with a 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the first beta is called openshot-docs_2.0.1.deb
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been testing the manual in Yelp (Gnome Help)
>>>>>
>>>>> Until I've got a full installable .deb, the way to read the help manual
>>>>> is to use the following command:
>>>>>
>>>>> yelp ghelp:/<full path to xml file>/openshot.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> You will find a file in there called "legal.xml". This file must remain
>>>>> untouched so that we comply with the rules of the Gnome Documentation
>>>>> Project.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is your debianisation going?
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine you will have to produce custom .deb packages for each of the
>>>>> libraries used, along with the .deb package for openshot itself?
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like a lot of work initially!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Helen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 12:02 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>>>>> > Helen, like Olivier mentioned, I think you have to have a gmail
>>>>> > account to use it with pidgin. On a side-note, gmail is the best
>>>>> > email app I've ever used. If you've never looked into it before, you
>>>>> > should research it a bit. I think you would like it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > -Jonathan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > Hello Helen
>>>>> > Thanks to answer at my questions
>>>>> > Very Good work and perhaps like you have sad we must open
>>>>> > another branch for the manuel. So we'll discuss with
>>>>> > jonathan.
>>>>> > i have seen the links but i 'm not yet go to see. But the
>>>>> > structure look simple (à 1ere vue)
>>>>> > You can talk in gmail with gtalk. you have only click with
>>>>> the
>>>>> > personn than you want. For pidgin it's a little more
>>>>> > compliced. In fact not really (all is simple when you know
>>>>> but
>>>>> > not when it's the opposite). Look at the french or english
>>>>> > ubuntu documentation.
>>>>> > install pidgin with synaptic. run it and create a compte
>>>>> > gmail. in the essentail onglet :
>>>>> > protocole gtalk ou xmmp
>>>>> > tonlogin gmail
>>>>> > domaine gmail.com
>>>>> > ressource home par exemple don't matter
>>>>> > rentre ton mot de passe gmail
>>>>> > choisi tonlogo (taille 192*192)
>>>>> > coche la case audessus (je sais plus ce que c'est)
>>>>> > Dans l'ongelt avance
>>>>> > coche le 1er use ssl/tls
>>>>> > port connexion 5222(normalement ok)
>>>>> > serveur de connection talk.google.com
>>>>> > and that's all
>>>>> > reconnecte-le et tu doir avoir d'abord une prise (tentative
>>>>> de
>>>>> > connection) et quand c'est bon une bulle blanche avec un rond
>>>>> > vert.
>>>>> > @jonathan
>>>>> > for our conversation about cration .deb, try this programm
>>>>> > it's better than chekinstall and it's graphical and not only
>>>>> > ubuntu but for all debian. And with alien we can imagine
>>>>> > create some rpm!!!!!!
>>>>> > The link is here
>>>>> > Have you look for the creation .pot file. i'm thinking than
>>>>> we
>>>>> > 'll have the software traduce in spanish french italian
>>>>> german
>>>>> > finnish.
>>>>> > See you later perhaps
>>>>> > Tchao Olivier
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Bonjour Olivier,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I will answer all your questions. I will have to
>>>>> > answer in English
>>>>> > because my French is not good enough yet for some of
>>>>> > what I will say.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I will answer your questions in reverse order. I will
>>>>> > start with your
>>>>> > last question.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The links at the end of our emails are because
>>>>> > Jonathan and I are
>>>>> > sending our emails through the Openshot.developers
>>>>> > list server. This is
>>>>> > the private email discussion list for the the
>>>>> OpenShot
>>>>> > Developers team
>>>>> > that you have joined.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you look at the message header for this email, you
>>>>> > will see the Cc:
>>>>> > line shows the email address to send to our Openshot
>>>>> > Developers
>>>>> > discussion list. Sending to this address ensures that
>>>>> > all our team (5
>>>>> > peaople) will be kept informed about what is
>>>>> happening
>>>>> > on our project.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > About gtalk: I didn't know that you could access
>>>>> gtalk
>>>>> > from Linux. I
>>>>> > didn't know that you could use pidgin to do it. I
>>>>> will
>>>>> > have to look at
>>>>> > this next week so I can talk with you and Jonathan.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > About the new help-manual branch on launchpad:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I will push the file system hierarchy to the
>>>>> > help-manual branch soon. I
>>>>> > am building the file system for this branch so that
>>>>> we
>>>>> > will be able to
>>>>> > automatically generate .deb package files from it at
>>>>> > any point we like
>>>>> > in the development of the help manual.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am at present writing the various control files
>>>>> > needed to build and
>>>>> > install the Help Manual as a Ubuntu/Debian package.
>>>>> > When I have tested
>>>>> > this to ensure it works safely, I will push this file
>>>>> > system and the
>>>>> > outline stage of the manual to the help-manual
>>>>> branch.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Then you will be able to download the package file
>>>>> > system and files to
>>>>> > your computer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > When we get to that point, we will be able to discuss
>>>>> > with Jonathan the
>>>>> > best way for us to all work on this manual.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We might either have a separate
>>>>> > help-manual-<developers-name> branch
>>>>> > which I can merge together at agreed intervals, or we
>>>>> > might have an
>>>>> > agreed work plan of who works on what part at what
>>>>> > time on one branch.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We can discuss this with Jonathan next week when I
>>>>> > have the basic debian
>>>>> > package structure up on Launchpad.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In the meanwhile, if you practice using Docbook XML
>>>>> to
>>>>> > write Gnome Help
>>>>> > files, and read the links on the Gnome Documentation
>>>>> > Project which you
>>>>> > will find on the link I sent you, you will then
>>>>> > understand more of what
>>>>> > we are going to be doing.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tchao, Helen
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 21:37 +0200, Olivier Girard
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > > Hello and thanks a lot for your help.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > It's exactly that i don't know familar with bazaar
>>>>> > and, launchpad and
>>>>> > > participate in a project in fact. All It's new for
>>>>> > me.
>>>>> > > It's very nice to your part to help me. I have
>>>>> > generated my key, i
>>>>> > > have sucessed to be identified between bazaar and
>>>>> > launchpad but i
>>>>> > > can't have access to help-manuel. I'have read all
>>>>> > your links and
>>>>> > > othersbut i have an error :
>>>>> > > bzr: ERROR: Target directory
>>>>> > > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>>> already
>>>>> > exists, but does
>>>>> > > not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply
>>>>> > --use-existing-dir to push
>>>>> > > there anyway.
>>>>> > > In fact i don't undersand something, According to
>>>>> > the doc, i must
>>>>> > > create a branch to have acces at another. To have
>>>>> > the code, i have
>>>>> > > understand but to participate really no.
>>>>> > > Ten minutes after this words, i have done something
>>>>> > and i have now a
>>>>> > > folder help-manuel empty, that's normal ? So now i
>>>>> > have a folder for
>>>>> > > the help-manual and the software.
>>>>> > > In all cases, it's not my day.
>>>>> > > I have tried to create a virtualization of two
>>>>> > ubuntu (32 and 64 )
>>>>> > > that's out.
>>>>> > > I have tried the new version (0.94), it's the same
>>>>> > thing (it's crashed
>>>>> > > when i import a file!!!)
>>>>> > > i have play with openshot (old version i have yet
>>>>> > acces thanks to
>>>>> > > helen) and i don't find how have more time with the
>>>>> > transitions
>>>>> > > i have not all understand with bazaar
>>>>> > > Thes points positif are for lprod (it a good new
>>>>> > because the software
>>>>> > > has been to test without my intervention, i have
>>>>> > said that the french
>>>>> > > communauty have seen the first post on sum-up) and
>>>>> > the second i have
>>>>> > > modified the french page of wikipedia on
>>>>> > AVCHD.(another thing that
>>>>> > > i've never done).
>>>>> > > I 'm reading the dockbook and for the moment, i
>>>>> > understand, it 's a
>>>>> > > good point.
>>>>> > > Now, i'm going to rip a little film that i have
>>>>> done
>>>>> > this morning
>>>>> > > about my little river which will complate the film
>>>>> > about my little
>>>>> > > cat.
>>>>> > > If you want speak on gtalk, you can (and i have
>>>>> > success to work
>>>>> > > pidgin).
>>>>> > > Tchao
>>>>> > > Olivier
>>>>> > > Oh another last question: how you do to have at the
>>>>> > end all the links
>>>>> > > like this:
>>>>> > > Mailing list:
>>>>> > https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>>> > > Post to :
>>>>> > openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > > Unsubscribe :
>>>>> > https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>>>>> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > 2009/7/18 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Thanks for that Jonathan,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I'll have a look at it tomorrow or Sunday.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I think Olivier means he needs to generate
>>>>> a
>>>>> > key first so he
>>>>> > > can upload
>>>>> > > to Launchpad. I generated my key when I
>>>>> > first registered.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I took a break from XML coding, and got to
>>>>> > work on building
>>>>> > > the correct
>>>>> > > form of directory structure to base the
>>>>> > whole documentation
>>>>> > > package on.
>>>>> > > I've started writing the Makefiles and
>>>>> other
>>>>> > control and
>>>>> > > information
>>>>> > > files needed.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > It is coming along slowly because I'm
>>>>> having
>>>>> > to learn how to
>>>>> > > do things
>>>>> > > at every stage. :~)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I keep wondering what comments this Manual
>>>>> > will get from
>>>>> > > 66666er! I
>>>>> > > suspect that kid is aged 13 and 3/4!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I'm going to bed now because I'm exhausted.
>>>>> > I'm getting up
>>>>> > > early
>>>>> > > tomorrow to go out with a friend.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Tchao, Helen
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:21 -0500, Jonathan
>>>>> > Thomas wrote:
>>>>> > > > I'm not sure if you are familiar with
>>>>> > bazaar (the source
>>>>> > > control in
>>>>> > > > LaunchPad). You need to create a local
>>>>> > bzr repository with
>>>>> > > your
>>>>> > > > folder / files. Then commit your changes
>>>>> > locally. And
>>>>> > > finally, push
>>>>> > > > your local commits to your new branch:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > After you get it setup, you only have to
>>>>> > commit changes, and
>>>>> > > push them
>>>>> > > > back to bazaar. It's quite easy after
>>>>> > it's all setup.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Bazaar in 5 minutes:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Thanks,
>>>>> > > > -Jonathan
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Olivier
>>>>> > Girard
>>>>> > > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > Helen
>>>>> > > > That's good i have found (i'm
>>>>> > thinking) but we must
>>>>> > > have a key
>>>>> > > > for upload the manuel.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>>>>> > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > > > Helen
>>>>> > > > Sorry i'm now on
>>>>> launchpad
>>>>> > but i don't find
>>>>> > > the new
>>>>> > > > branch for the manuel.
>>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>>>>> > > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Helen
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > It's a very good
>>>>> > job. i have a
>>>>> > > little speak on
>>>>> > > > gtalk with
>>>>> > jonathan for the first
>>>>> > > time. Now he
>>>>> > > > have a meeting
>>>>> but
>>>>> > Would you join
>>>>> > > us. But how
>>>>> > > > at tree, i don't
>>>>> > know. We could
>>>>> > > speak about
>>>>> > > > the manuel.
>>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > 2009/7/17 Helen
>>>>> > McCall
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Good
>>>>> > thinking!
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I'll add
>>>>> > you to the
>>>>> > > Authors. :-)
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Tchao,
>>>>> > Helen
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > On Fri,
>>>>> > 2009-07-17 at 14:41
>>>>> > > -0500,
>>>>> > > > Jonathan
>>>>> > Thomas wrote:
>>>>> > > > > Sounds
>>>>> > great Helen! Let
>>>>> > > me know
>>>>> > > > once you
>>>>> > publish your files
>>>>> > > into the
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > help-manual branch. Also,
>>>>> > > I would
>>>>> > > > be happy
>>>>> > to author some of
>>>>> > > the
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> sections
>>>>> > of the
>>>>> > > help-manual, once I
>>>>> > > > get some
>>>>> > free time. Once we
>>>>> > > are
>>>>> > > > > all
>>>>> > happy with the
>>>>> > > structure of the
>>>>> > > > manual,
>>>>> > maybe we could split
>>>>> > > up
>>>>> > > > > some of
>>>>> > the sections and
>>>>> > > double-team
>>>>> > > > it.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > Also, I
>>>>> > have 70+ blog
>>>>> > > entries on
>>>>> > > > OpenShot,
>>>>> > covering all sorts
>>>>> > > of
>>>>> > > > > topics.
>>>>> > Lots of
>>>>> > > screenshots also.
>>>>> > > > Even
>>>>> > though it's written in
>>>>> > > a
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > different style than a
>>>>> > > help manual,
>>>>> > > > hopefully
>>>>> > we will be able to
>>>>> > > use
>>>>> > > > > some of
>>>>> > that content.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > Thanks!
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > -Jonathan
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > On Fri,
>>>>> > Jul 17, 2009 at
>>>>> > > 2:23 PM,
>>>>> > > > Helen
>>>>> > McCall
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Hello Olivier and
>>>>> > > Jonathan,
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > I'm making
>>>>> > > progress setting
>>>>> > > > out the
>>>>> > structure in Gnome
>>>>> > > Help
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > format
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > (Docbook XML), and
>>>>> > > I'm
>>>>> > > > testing
>>>>> it
>>>>> > in the Gnome Help
>>>>> > > system
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > (Yelp) as I'm
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > going.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > I'm using
>>>>> > > Jonathan's screen
>>>>> > > > shots for
>>>>> > now to save time.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > I've put in
>>>>> > > credits:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Authors: Helen
>>>>> > > McCall and
>>>>> > > > Olivier
>>>>> > Girard
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Contributor:
>>>>> > > Jonathan Thomas
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Translator:
>>>>> > > Olivier Girard
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > OpenShot
>>>>> > > Developer: Jonathan
>>>>> > > > Thomas
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > OpenShot
>>>>> > > Contributor: Andy
>>>>> > > > Finch for
>>>>> > the titling
>>>>> > > system.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Manual Copyright:
>>>>> > > Helen
>>>>> > > > McCall,
>>>>> > Olivier Girard,
>>>>> > > Jonathan
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Thomas 2009
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Publisher: Gnome
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > Documentation Project
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > I've registered a
>>>>> > > new branch
>>>>> > > > in
>>>>> > launchpad for the Manual:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > I've set the
>>>>> > > "owner" to
>>>>> > > > "OpenShot
>>>>> > Developers" so we
>>>>> > > can all
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > access it.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > Tchao, Helen
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > > > Mailing
>>>>> > list:
>>>>> > > >
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