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[Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Don't worry Andy, i'll test too in my Lucid.

2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>

> I can see where the problem is, I was just after verification from someone
> else - just wanted to check it wasn't just something wrong with my system.
>
> I'll have a patch ready tomorrow hopefully - but will need someone else to
> test it doesn't break on Lucid :-
>
> -Andy.
>
>
> On 18 September 2010 21:26, Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> I wonder if this problem is related to switching to GTK builder.  We are
>> loosing compatibility with older versions of Ubuntu.  I think we need GTK
>> 2.16 for our GtkBuilder stuff to work.  Ubuntu 9.10 should have GTK 2.18, I
>> think.  I'll setup a VirtualBox of Ubuntu 9.10 and try it out.  If someone
>> figures it out before me, just drop me an email.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Okay i have this version Operationnelle on this system too. I should find
>>> why Bazaar Explorer don't work well.
>>> I have created a new project with some files of my Nexus and actually,
>>> the right clic on the main project tree nothing works.
>>> Another thing : is it something have being changed on the layout in the
>>> right clic of the clip. I have done a layout with 4 clips and i have now a
>>> black vertical bar in the middle (see screenshot join) (and not horisontal
>>> ?) that i wasn't having yet.
>>> And always a little problem with the clip created by Title Animated 3D
>>> (see at left). In fact, i have just give a simple name. I don't know why he
>>> want to give a number (ie %d) ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> I was believing than another revision was done since this  morning (that
>>>> could explain that) but no. I have no problem for launch it on Lucid.
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you ? Perhaps tonight ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have always (not for a long time) my karmic in 32 bits for my HTPC. I
>>>>> have done a update on this system (1.2.0 beta1), i have a  conflict
>>>>> encountered - revision 332 after running openshot i have an Syntaxerror.
>>>>> Have the same ? I'm going to check on the other
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else got a Karmic (9.10) install (maybe a virtualbox)? Just
>>>>>> wondered if anyone else can verify a problem with the right click menu on
>>>>>> the main project tree - it's not appearing & getting a python error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 September 2010 12:28, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan, (and hello, at this moment you go to sleep very late or
>>>>>>> rather early !!!!!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some anothers news effects very interesting here<http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Video : all the effects presents work fine
>>>>>>>> Audio : a little doubt for the tremble but the others work fine too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For this week-end ? (i am nearly sure)[?][?]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My general impression is that she is more and more stable (under
>>>>>>>> blender/Python API)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A suggestion: for the next version between one week (for  sample) we
>>>>>>>> should launch a test campaign and same ask help on our forum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  | So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the
>>>>>>>>> version of Sox.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is obligatory ? i have not yet installed MLT 0.5.10 on Lucid ?
>>>>>>>>> No ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>> Strange Burning tv was working great on Karmic.
>>>>>>>>> Deinterlace :is it necesseray to remove it if it is working fine
>>>>>>>>> with MLT 0.5.10 ? A advertisement could just do ? Marverick is not far a way
>>>>>>>>> and with the PPA ........
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  | I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and
>>>>>>>>> different computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just
>>>>>>>>> fine on MLT 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>  Also, MLT 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10
>>>>>>>>> uses.  So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of
>>>>>>>>> Sox.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have re-tested and that works great now (a bad manipulation ?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  | I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect
>>>>>>>>> text video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires
>>>>>>>>> converting the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never
>>>>>>>>> could figure that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until
>>>>>>>>> another day. =)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Domage. It is really awesone It strikes the minds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  |
>>>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay and i done some others tests for this effects at problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier, thanks for the feedback.  Here are the resolutions for the
>>>>>>>>>> issues we have found so far:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - deinterlace - seg faults on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6. Works
>>>>>>>>>> fine on MLT 0.5.10, but Ubuntu does not have that version yet.
>>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - wave - seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - BurningTV - only black screen, seems broken on MLT 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>> & 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Audio:
>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>> FIXED - bass - not changing the sound
>>>>>>>>>> FIXED - treble - not changing the sound
>>>>>>>>>> FIXED - echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay
>>>>>>>>>> ... ]
>>>>>>>>>> FIXED - phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>> REMOVED - pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]].  The pitch effect seemed completely broken.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and
>>>>>>>>>> different computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just
>>>>>>>>>> fine on MLT 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>  Also, MLT 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10
>>>>>>>>>> uses.  So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of
>>>>>>>>>> Sox.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect
>>>>>>>>>> text video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires
>>>>>>>>>> converting the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never
>>>>>>>>>> could figure that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until
>>>>>>>>>> another day. =)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through
>>>>>>>>>> for bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nice this puzzle transition.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have finished my test on a Ubuntu 10.04 in 64 bits with all
>>>>>>>>>>> standard And i note the following things :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> two type of error : a seg faults for :
>>>>>>>>>>> - freiOr.constrestor
>>>>>>>>>>> -deinterlace
>>>>>>>>>>> and a black window for :
>>>>>>>>>>> -burning tv
>>>>>>>>>>> -chroma key
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Audio:
>>>>>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing in console for the others but same if i am not a
>>>>>>>>>>> sound specialize, i have the impression that none ...........works.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  | Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the
>>>>>>>>>>> command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>> How do you test this sound effects in the command line "play" ?
>>>>>>>>>>> It can help me to know what i must ..................hear before to test.
>>>>>>>>>>> And if sox works (in command line) the problem not comes from him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I aml going to do some others tests with the last version of MLT
>>>>>>>>>>> (ie 5.10) for this effects and after with the last version of FreiOr-plugins
>>>>>>>>>>> always in a 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have found a little translation bug (or not ? ) When you add a
>>>>>>>>>>> effect in the Clip Propertie (tab effect), none effect is translate while it
>>>>>>>>>>> is the opposite in the tab effect in the main window. It is not the same
>>>>>>>>>>> list ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Beautiful this template for the Title animated 3D, i like this
>>>>>>>>>>> clapboard/clapperboards template.
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that you could fix all the small bugs in the others files,
>>>>>>>>>>> i find the little train very funny but too much quick. And the famous effect
>>>>>>>>>>> particle (like the Youtube video that you have show us when you have speak
>>>>>>>>>>> the first time) Have you managed to create.
>>>>>>>>>>>  I don't remember if i have said about a bug when you create a
>>>>>>>>>>> name of the title (see the screenshot),
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a modification to the puzzle transition.  It didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> really work the way that it was made.  The entire puzzle would just appear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  So, I made some of the pieces different shades of grey, and then softened
>>>>>>>>>>>> the edges with a "blur" in gimp.  Check it out... it's kind of fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry, i will be more available tomorrow and normally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you wake up tomorrow............. it will done. [?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember if i have told you about this new effect :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=553
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to not update any more translations, but now that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have lots of new blender animations to add in, I'll go ahead and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-generate the POT later tonight.  I've gone ahead and added the "missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame" error message to the list of translations.  They will all be in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaunchPad by the time you wake up tomorrow... hopefully. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is us (and not Blender) in the BlendorGenerator.py line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 723/724.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Andy, a user inform us that it miss a string to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate and after verification that's right. All was not genereted by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pot file !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the subject :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=552&p=2449#p2449
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but do you think that can not be the 5.10 and the 1.2 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can update their package like it is some great and important projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some others important projects (kdenlive, us) ? They have already done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  Lucid (i.e.MLT).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the versions in Maverick, and it looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT is a bit newer, but frei0r is the same version as in Lucid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Lucid is 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Maverick is 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frei0r is 1.1.22 (both Lucid and Maverick)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes but a thought: i suppose that this version (i.e. mlt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & freiOr-plugins) will be certainly in Marverick. No ? It is too late for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my tests, I was using the versions in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository of mlt, sox, and frei0r.  Since those packages are not in our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPA, I am assuming most users will just stick with the version in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distro's repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check out the blender files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here  some news greats blend files :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476#p2446
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the test, the new version of the  freior-plugins is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. We can find it here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/ppa>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must do the tests with this version or with the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'official" ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And which one version of MLT ? The last version is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Update:*  I have tested on Ubuntu 10.10 beta, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same issues are reproducible.  I guess these issues also existed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last release of OpenShot, because they don't seem related to our code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather some bug between MLT, Sox, and Frei0r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Thomas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing OpenShot on Ubuntu 10.04, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here are the issues I'm having so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Video:* - A few video effects have give me some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deinterlace - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave - looks horrible, doesn't work correctly (at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least no seg fault though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water - worked fine for me, but I removed it from bzr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Audio:* - These sox effects don't do anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me... but throw lots of these errors in the terminal output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decay ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [search-ms [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to continue to test on Ubuntu 10.04, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will test on Ubuntu 10.10 (to see if these issues still exist).  Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will try with the newest version of MLT and see what happens.  Please let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if you can verify these errors on your own system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier
>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier
>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Olivier
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