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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again Nio!
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On 06/01/2015 08:55 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Hi Israel,
> ...
>> Ok, so this means the chroot update grub script it not getting run...  I
>> will look into the script a bit more to see what is happening.
> OK
I made a modification to the grub installing things.
I changed it a little, and have it log to the log file so we can see if
grub is indeed updated. (or if OBI thinks it is).

I also removed ztweaks and and building a package for it now.
I changed the OBI control to require ztweaks be installed as well.
> ..
> OK, hovering came back after reboot. It was gone temporarily after updating.
I'm glad the batteri issue was resolved :)
I do need to do some things to optimize it a bit.... but at least it
works for me, so I can have a battery indicator here, and still use JWM :)
It is nice to have a light system that doesn't need to use my silly
nvidia graphics card (it has issues with Linux drivers) for any sort of
'effets'.  Though I have tried using compton and xcompmgr with some
strange issues...
>>> *Issues*
>>>
>>> 1. There are issues with the menus
>>>
>>> 1.1 mkusb is 9.1.5 in the installed system while it is 9.1.6 in the live
>>> system.
>> Hmmm... Oh!  I know, I didn't use unstable in the installed system.  Are
>> you going to update the stable PPA?
> Let us say mkusb is tested enough now, so that I can copy the unstable
> version to the stable version. I'll try to do it today.
great!!  thank you Nio!
> ...
> Right - in the installed system.
Ok I will look into PCManFM menu issues a bit more... but if we cannot
figure this out before release time, I think this is something that can
go into 'Release Notes' as it is not a show stopper to me.
>>> 2. ztweaks is not available in the installed system. I would be happy if
>>> you make it part of the installed ToriOS system (the tarball).
>> Ok, we should possibly move ztweaks into its own package (rather than
>> part of OBI)
>> This way it will be easy to install on its own.  I need to work on OBI
>> so I will try to do this soon.
> OK, it will be a very small package, but it is probably be the best way
> to do it.
>
Done :)
>> ...
>
> Now I have created some tarballs (no fancy tweaking, just for testing so
> far) and tested them.
>
> 1. It works to create a tarball in my installed ToriOS system and to
> install it using the same installed ToriOS system.
>
> 2. It works to create a tarball in a live system with persistence and to
> install it using the same live system with persistence.
>
> 3. It does not work cross-wise: The installed ToriOS system cannot use a
> tarball made with the live system, and the live ToriOS system cannot use
> a tarball made with an installed system. This is not necessary, but it
> would be nice with tarballs that are portable between the systems.
I am not 100% sure I understand what you are trying to do, or what is
not working right.

from what I understand, you are using the Live system to create a
tarball of a customized version of ToriOS.
And, this works fine now, if I understand you, to install and Networking
works fine.
Is this true?

But you cannot install ToriOS, and modify it and install it on another
computer?  Or you cannot make a USB system?

As long as whatever you are describing is not a show stopper we can wait
to figure this out for ToriOS 2.0   it can then be a *new* feature.  I'd
rather ship a stable easy to install working, decent system, than spend
too much time trying to figure something out that is a fringe use case.
When we build 2.0 we can really refine the ultimate customization of ToriOS.
> Conclusion about tarballs:
>
> The current version uploaded May 29 is improved compared to that
> uploaded May 24. Now it is possible to get both the network and
> nm-applet working when using an installed ToriOS system.
>
> If the computer boots from USB, I think it is more convenient and also
> more stable to use an installed system than a persistent live system to
> create and store the tarballs. They can reside in the directory
> '/tarballs'. The storage is only limited by the size of the pendrive,
> there is no CD size limit :-)
>
> You might say that the circle is closed. We have a ToriOS system similar
> to that of the original One Button Installer. But that is not true. The
> development can be illustrated with a helix, and the installed ToriOS
> system and its OBI-installer are improved.
>
> When ToriOS is getting stable (we are there or almost there now), I
> intend to make a nice 'installed ToriOS' system with some more installed
> packages including the OBI-installer. The intention with this system is
> to install it with mkusb into a USB pendrive (I'd recommend a fast USB 3
> pendrive), and to use it in systems that boot from USB (so systems from
> around 2003 and newer).
>
> Best regards
> Nio


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-Israel
ToriOS Team