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[Keith I Myers <keithiokepamyers@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello all,
I can take a lead role in getting the website done if there are no
objections. I am not the lead of the Artwork Team but am the keeper of the
branding/marketing so this would fall under that team as well.

I can also spin up Feng Office on one of my personal servers which can be
used for storage, tracking, and collaboration. I am also fine with any
other storage system that would better suit everyone. To be clear, I don't
want to spend a lot of time discussing the storage as I would on the actual
site, I don't care if we are mailing around floppy disks as long as it is
fast and efficient.

In reference to the design, we should take these blueprints into
consideration

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/improve-ubuntugnome-website
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/ubuntu-gnome-website-look+feel

These are detailed enough to give us a starting point but also vague enough
to allow us to be creative. The website should have a "blueish" theme and
be simple, intuitive and beautiful.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Prashant Matta <pvmatta6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I agree with you on both of it. When I used to work for TEDxGateway, we
> used Google Drive only. And yeah... UX is first.
> So, Keith, we are under you lead, I assume?
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Patrik Bubák <bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
>>  First I'd say the main focus is the design itself. The code comes later.
>>
>>  Dňa 9.1.2015 o 19:39 Prashant Matta napísal(a):
>>
>> Same here. And the fact that you are behind me, I don't think there will
>> be a need for you to work at night (unless and until you are a
>> procrastinator/nocturnal creature).
>> So yeah, the only question now remains is 'when?'. Oh and we will need
>> the FTP address and access to the site, yes?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Patrik Bubák <
>> bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  My time zone is GMT+1, am based in Denmark, so Copenhagen time.
>>>
>>> I am willing to adjust as needed, have no issues working at night time
>>> in case it's urgent.
>>>
>>>  Dňa 9.1.2015 o 19:20 Prashant Matta napísal(a):
>>>
>>> I am also ready and yes, a separate group discussion/chat would be
>>> better so that it won't disturb other folks here (secondary would be that
>>> email chats are a bit confusing at times). Or otherwise, Skype works too.
>>>
>>> About the drives, I guess Dropbox/OneDrive/Google Drive are similar (at
>>> least for me). So I am fine with whatever you all decide upon.
>>>
>>> And yeah. I will also contribute as much as possible(that goes without
>>> saying).
>>>
>>> Can everybody who is contributing tell their location/GMT so that we
>>> could have a better understanding of when to disturb each other?
>>> Mine would be Mumbai, India (GMT +5:30)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Keith I Myers <
>>> keithiokepamyers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I completely understand Patrik and am willing to make as many
>>>> sacrifices as needed to ensure that this gets done. Remember, I am not a
>>>> designer so don't let me interrupt your best practices.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Patrik Bubák <
>>>> bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I understand Keith. Time zones are a pain when it comes to projects
>>>>> like these, but a compromise has to be made if work is to be done as quick
>>>>> and efficient as possible, even though art itself cannot be rushed and
>>>>> those expecting fast results will get... well, fast results not resulting
>>>>> in what they hoped for.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also agree on the mailing list for those managing the project, to
>>>>> get a general overview of the state of things, but I still defend the idea,
>>>>> that members of the design team directly working on the project should have
>>>>> a way of reaching one another faster than over emails, plus there is a
>>>>> downside to email attachment limitations, as greater files (let's say
>>>>> .PSDs) cannot be sent over email.
>>>>>
>>>>> For that a shared cloud storage for immediate and effective work on
>>>>> the same file from different locations comes into discussion. I can't
>>>>> think of anything better than Google Drive, although its functionality is
>>>>> limited to platforms in runs on, afaik there is no suitable Drive client
>>>>> for Linux still and there are only a few that share the same functionality,
>>>>> one of which is Copy <http://copy.com>, which I use and works
>>>>> flawlessly on all platforms, mobile included.
>>>>>
>>>>> A private social media group, since most of use social media, would be
>>>>> an effective and more interactive way of collaboration with live previews
>>>>> and direct discussions in forms of comments, which are more readable than
>>>>> nested email chats in which I personally often get lost, to be honest. Live
>>>>> chat over one of the mentioned communication applications is an even bigger
>>>>> plus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please understand, that since we cannot sit in one cosy office and
>>>>> discuss things face to face we have to find other means that suit the work
>>>>> pace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some sacrifices will have to be made, but that's the usual case in
>>>>> everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Dňa 9.1.2015 o 17:19 Keith I Myers napísal(a):
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Patrik,
>>>>> I think the mailing list would be the best option with a failback to
>>>>> Skype/Facebook/Hangouts for "real time" communication. I do have and use
>>>>> Skype on occasion.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The mailing list may be the best approach for other forms of
>>>>> communication as we are all on different timezones. I am currently on US
>>>>> EST (GMT -5) as I reside in Miami, Florida.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Keith I Myers <
>>>>> keithiokepamyers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Ali - Any objections to creating a "Ubuntu Gnome Website Redesign
>>>>>> Team" on Launchpad to give this project its own mailing list and access to
>>>>>> other resources. I can take lead of the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Patrik Bubák <
>>>>>> bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm in Keith, as long as we first decide on the main communication
>>>>>>> channel, since that should be priority #1 - to work (almost) in real-time,
>>>>>>> so progress is fast and smooth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dňa 9.1.2015 o 17:08 Keith I Myers napísal(a):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Patrik,
>>>>>>> With the newly sparked interest between you and Prashant, do you
>>>>>>> guys feel that we can take this on and get something done rather quickly? I
>>>>>>> am not an artist in any sense but I can help as a Project Manager and
>>>>>>> Consultant to ensure that our design guidelines are respected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Patrik Bubák <
>>>>>>> bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am new to the team, but am trying to follow up as much as I can.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know it may seem difficult sometimes to work with me, since when
>>>>>>>> I work on something I expect the other side to be as clear about their
>>>>>>>> demands as they can, which I do realize is not often possible and the
>>>>>>>> industry I am entering also teaches, but believe me when I say when the
>>>>>>>> communication is right, and attention to detail is paid, all work will be
>>>>>>>> done accordingly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To the website issue, I cannot, nor do I consider myself a web
>>>>>>>> designer, *yet*. Currently I am taking my three-months long
>>>>>>>> internship at a local design company, so practically I am available, not
>>>>>>>> sure to what extent, but I am.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have done a few small web designs and about 3 full websites in
>>>>>>>> Joomla, but that was years ago. Joomla, however, is simple and could be an
>>>>>>>> alternative for us - to take a suitable pre-coded Joomla template and
>>>>>>>> redesign that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am confident we have many skilled people with us who know their
>>>>>>>> way around with the code, so Joomla, that is just like Ubuntu built by the
>>>>>>>> community and with all its flexibility could be altered to anyone's
>>>>>>>> desires. Then again I saw the work of some of our designers and again I am
>>>>>>>> confident, that together we can achieve great things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *All it takes is proper communication*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know we are busy, some of us extremely, and that is why we have
>>>>>>>> to continue in a massive recruitment campaign to fill up our ranks. This
>>>>>>>> campaign would involve the creation of recruitment banners/posters/other
>>>>>>>> propaganda material to hire designers to join the cause.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are many artists who simply don't know where to fit, then
>>>>>>>> there are those who are yet to experience the light of the stage, and there
>>>>>>>> are so many art collectives/websites centred around art that I lost count
>>>>>>>> of and are the best place to start searching at.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those being a part of such communities should start posting blog
>>>>>>>> entries, forum threads and even in the news section of that site with the
>>>>>>>> approval of admins that we are looking for people with skill, dedication
>>>>>>>> and the right amount of enthusiasm for our cause because what we do is
>>>>>>>> karma, but a good one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Dňa 9.1.2015 o 4:24 Ali/amjjawad napísal(a):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Pieterse <dev@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Hey Team,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just saw that we have 13.10 / Gnome 3.8 screenshots up at
>>>>>>>>> http://ubuntugnome.org/screenshots/.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please can we get these updated whenever you have some time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  The whole website MUST be changed and it seems no one is
>>>>>>>> following up with this issue. While I didn't give up yet, I feel my efforts
>>>>>>>> to chase this issue is helpless/useless as neither the marketing nor the
>>>>>>>> artwork sub-teams are following up. Above all, I have not yet seen a
>>>>>>>> serious draft to replace the current website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I highly understand real life comes first (myself was and still
>>>>>>>> busy with), this task was pending for more than one cycle and if I remember
>>>>>>>> correctly, we wanted to do that from 14.04 cycle. It means 3 cycles so far
>>>>>>>> ... that's way too much!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  If you think we need to update the screenshots until the website
>>>>>>>> is done, please go ahead and I will do the upload for the new screenshots.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>     Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>  Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>>>>>  *Remember: *"All of us are smarter than any one of us."
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