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[Omar B. <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

- the items that now hide inside the MM are the icons (or what used to be icons in the panel/systray).

ref.
https://a248.e.akamai.net/assets.github.com/img/15183cadf2a9cdd7781aea9a6a22b84455adf703/687474703a2f2f6935342e74696e797069632e636f6d2f32343136787a6f2e706e67


- users used to spot these icons quickly

ref.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/TALwoQRxZrI/AAAAAAAAIBY/4Wxk1JmG-34/s1600/Selection_002.png


- now they only see this: nothing. And then ask: "Sir i lost my app" or "Sir i see IM notifications but i dont see where app went to"


is not obvious that the app icon is now hidden inside that panel.

Its a shift they are not used to and i see this everyday with dozens of people at the internet cafe (yea is awesome hearing complaints all day..), thus they ask to use other machines with older versions of ubuntu or windows (which i price higher to try to reduce demand). I have no proposal yet to fix this (visual?) regression, as there are too many variables that affect more than 1 party. So any proposal will eventually hear complaints from some power user.

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> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:42:42 +0100
> From: joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx
> To: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Notifications in unity
>
> Den 17. nov. 2011 19:17, skrev Omar B.:
> > i agree with you.
> >
> > My dad has spent over "20.000 hours" in front of a computer and he only knows how to use firefox, send an email, open a pdf and maybe login to skype (he cant install it without help).
> >
> > am sure another "10.920 hours" will pass and he wont know much else.
> >
> > and as of "younger generations" i dont see them learning much either.
> >
> > majority of people use computers/internet just to connect with other people and that's
> > it. They dont want to learn an OS. They may know a little of windows/office, because is thought in schools and everyone has windows in some computer.
> >
> > when apps hide inside the MM they are not obvious, is not just emesene. There needs to be a way to make it more obvious.
> >
> > ________________________
>
> Apps do not hide in indicators. Indicators also do not hide
> applications. The applications themselves make the window hidden. That
> can be caused by anything and this doesn't have anything to do with
> indicators at all. Should these notifications present themselves
> whenever an application was being hidden, for any reason, or do you
> propose that all applications that is able to hide its window should be
> patched? What exactly is the proposal, anyway?
>
> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>
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