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[Tim Bernhard <ohiomoto@xxxxxxxxx>]

Again, what is the goal of this?  If the goal is to find the lighter of the
two, will Lubuntu test and choose the lightest with each release?  Does
Lubuntu want to be constantly changing browsers?  Dose Lubuntu care if it's
open source?

I agree it should be one of the two mentioned.  I think Lubuntu should
choose one and stick with it as long as it doesn't substantially fall
behind the other.  I don't think Lubuntu should "split hairs" over
benchmarks.  If the two are close, move on to the next question.

So what is the long range stance on this.  Lightest no matter what or
lightweight balanced of other criteria?

Tim



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:55 AM, A. Andjelkovic <andjelkovic@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
> such personal opinions out of this discussion.
> I think we can all agree that both Firefox and Chromium are rich in
> features.
> We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
> Chromium, use the least resources.
> We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
> browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
> Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather "This
> is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 9 November 2011 06:03, Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just look
>> > at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
>> > important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)
>>
>> Google is dropping H264 support:
>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>>
>> > or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a different
>> > process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
>> > other tabs.
>>
>> Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
>> sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
>> available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
>> it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>>
>> > All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers the
>> > better features.
>>
>> That's a bit subjective as Firefox also offers unique features: It's
>> possible to run a few hundred tabs in Firefox; the design of
>> Chromium's tabbar makes that much more painful in Chromium. Firefox
>> has a much more powerful addon framework (although Chromium may
>> improve this next year). The user has more control over his data with
>> Firefox Sync than with Google's version.
>>
>> While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
>> web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
>> than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
>> source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
>> nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
>> continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
>> different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
>> the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
>> supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
>> maintain Chromium).
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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