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[Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ok. I was misunderstandig the point. It's clear now. Thank you very much.
Ana
El 28/10/2013 06:35, "Fabien Pinckaers" <fp@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> Ana,
>
> There are no change in the way we manage stable branches. The only changes
> are in the way we manage the trunk branch.
>
> As you use the stable branch, nothing change for you. The only visible
> difference is that v8 will be much stable the day we will release it.
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to understand how is it going to work on future but I can not
> yet.
> Is there any place, slides or documentation about it?
> Some of my concerns and doubts would be:
> - new functionality will be included on stable version each month?
> - there could be db changes on existing modules to make it compatible with
> that new functionality?
> - if yes.. Would be necesary migrating production data of our customers
> each month even if we could do it with enterprise contract?
> - how would be avoided regressions?
> - how does this work with localizations and fiscal changes on each country?
> - how does this work with not saas customers having custom modules? Is
> there any recomendation or methodology for this kind of projects?
>
> Thak you in advance:
> Ana
> El 27/10/2013 21:59, "Fabien Pinckaers" <fp@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>
>>
>> > As per slide 28 of
>> http://www.slideshare.net/openobject/openerp-2012-openerp-strategy, the
>> same was supposed to be true for the 7.0 release.
>>
>> Yes, we wanted to put the saas on trunk before v7 but we did not succeed.
>>
>> We put a lot of efforts testing an bugfixing v7 before launch, but we did
>> not have any real users in production before the launch. Some bugs are very
>> difficult to find by manual test teams and, unfortunatelly, are detected
>> post launch when going in production.
>>
>> So, It took us 9 months more to succeed putting saas on trunk. But now,
>> we succeeded; our own instance, all training sessions and saas users are on
>> trunk. And we already did upgrades of the saas without big issues.
>>
>> One should check stats, but I would say that even more bugs are reported
>> and fixed on trunk than on stable. That's completly new and it's a very
>> good sign for the transition to v8 that will be smoother.
>>
>>
>> > Much as we love OpenERP and appreciate that you put a lot of effort
>> into development and maintenance, we did not experience the 7.0 release as
>> stable (and I am not talking about the partner model, but simply the
>> usability of the core modules).
>>
>> I know we had lots of issues at the time of the release of v7.
>>
>> You will probably disagree but overall, compared to the HUGE volume of
>> improvements done in v7, it's not that much. It's even very low compared to
>> v6, v6.1
>>
>> E.g. We complety replaced the good-old GTK by the web client and we had
>> nearly no issue on the web client. It's a huge piece of code and it's damn
>> stable since its release.
>>
>> Our ratio "# bugs / volume of changes-improvements" is very low. (*)
>>
>> Compare this to the number of bugs you introduced with your 60 commits on
>> OCB branch :)
>>
>>
>> (*) but it's not good enough, we must do much better.
>>
>> > Is it really going to be different this time?
>>
>> I hope... it's very difficult to predict.
>>
>> It's a huge challenge to bring in so much improvements, while keeping a
>> strong level of maturity.
>>
>>
>> But now, the risk is not anymore on new releases. V8 will be clean the
>> day we will release it as we will already have thousands users using it for
>> months.
>>
>> The risk is on our own instance and saas customers for each monthly
>> upgrades.
>>
>> The challenge is huge (monthly upgrades of saas customers on trunk) but I
>> am very confident. For now on, we do our own production server before saas
>> customers to check everything is clean.
>>
>> For now on, it's a success but we did not merge yet huge feature branches
>> like the new WMS.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Stefan.
>> >
>> >
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