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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

And just to add to the mix, it seems that bohdi linux is going to shortly
arrive under 'our' banner as the existing TL is retiring due to RL issues
and eagles will be taking over. Not fully cast in stone yet, but it does
seem that way. So, we get another low resource *buntu in the family!. No
one ever say that we do not offer choice :)

Regards,

Phill.

On 15 September 2014 13:36, Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Nio,
> I think the OBI option would be good.  Though I think for ToriOS 1.0 we
> will need to simply stick with what we have for right now.
>
> But I think this will be something I will investigate further for later
> usage.  It may not provide much extra benefit.  Though it may... However
> I am going to concentrate on the major issues for now.
>
> I was kinda hoping someone would know more about whether this was
> doable... though I do think it should be....  I may do some testing but
> there are some things I need to finish before I start something else :)
>
> On 09/14/2014 11:11 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > Hi Israel,
> >
> > I do not fully understand how an installation along those lines should
> > work. But I know that you understand a lot about creating a full
> > operating system, so I encourage you to try it; to do what you want with
> > a much smaller foot-print than doing it with ubiquity.
> >
> > Another option might be to extend the OBI to take advantage of an
> > existing home partition; to let you include it or copy it to be used in
> > the system that is being installed.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> > Den 2014-09-14 22:37, Israel skrev:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I agree in both respects.
> >> The target system is something that will freeze up using ubiquity....
> >> however,
> >> our target is also people that want a lightweight environment that is
> >> fairly easy to set up, and is fully customizable.  This would make using
> >> Ubiquity ideal for some people... however,
> >> I have an idea that we could in effect partition the harddrive for the
> >> user based on a few options, and detecting what is already on the
> >> machine (is it Linux, or not?).
> >> Then make a chroot on the computer from stored packages in
> /var/apt/cache
> >> and install grub2 to it.... and voila.
> >> It could be a simple dialog program that asks a couple of questions, and
> >> runs basically the script we already have to build the Live CD, but uses
> >> /dev/sdX mounted at /mnt/OS as the chroot directory.  it could
> >> potentially link /dev/sdN as the /home of the new system.
> >>
> >> Phill, does this seem reasonable?  Am I missing something major in what
> >> I understand here?  This seems like what Ubiquity would be doing in
> essence.
> >>
> >> On 09/14/2014 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> >>> No, I'm not joking, Phill :-D
> >>>
> >>> Ubiquity should not be the only installer, because it has a heavy
> >>> foot-print, as you wrote. I certainly agree with you about that.
> >>>
> >>> But I think many people 'need it' to set up their system in an advanced
> >>> way, with several partitions or with OEM.
> >>>
> >>> For OEM it is enough to include ubiquity in the tarball and not in the
> >>> installer (live system). We can consider that.
> >>>
> >>> -o-
> >>>
> >>> But I suggest that we do *not* include ubiquity in the present version
> >>> of ToriOS.
> >>>
> >>> The alternate installer is an entirely different concept without a live
> >>> session. It would create a doublet system, that I do not think we
> should
> >>> bother about for ToriOS. The OBI needs much less RAM than the alternate
> >>> installer, and it is much faster and much more stable, particularly
> with
> >>> low end computers.
> >>>
> >>> Who needs a very complicated partition system on a very old and weak
> >>> computer? I think some people want it, but do they really need it? Many
> >>> people (including me) are happy with one root partition, one swap
> >>> partition and a *data partition*, that need not be included in the
> >>> system setup, and that can be managed separately for pictures, music,
> >>> video, etc). This is easily set up with gparted and used by the OBI at
> >>> the advanced OBI level.
> >>>
> >>> It might be different in a more powerful computer, but then ubiquity
> can
> >>> do the job.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Nio
> >>>
> >>> Den 2014-09-14 16:51, Phill Whiteside skrev:
> >>>> WHAT????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14 September 2014 15:22, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>     So even I would say that ubiquity should be bundled with ToriOS,
> maybe
> >>>>     not in the first version, but in the next version, or in a DVD
> version
> >>>>     (oversized for CD disks), while we must keep a very lean CD
> version.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> you are joking.
> >>>>
> >>>> Use the alternate installer as per lubuntu. A lot of the machines you
> >>>> are aiming for could not run ubiquity! Lubuntu runs on less than what
> >>>> Ubiquity needs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just my thoughts,
> >>>>
> >>>> Phill.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
> >>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
>


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