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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Bodhi Linux is nice :-)

Best regards
Nio

Den 2014-09-16 14:26, Phill Whiteside skrev:
> And just to add to the mix, it seems that bohdi linux is going to
> shortly arrive under 'our' banner as the existing TL is retiring due to
> RL issues and eagles will be taking over. Not fully cast in stone yet,
> but it does seem that way. So, we get another low resource *buntu in the
> family!. No one ever say that we do not offer choice :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> On 15 September 2014 13:36, Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Nio,
>     I think the OBI option would be good.  Though I think for ToriOS 1.0 we
>     will need to simply stick with what we have for right now.
> 
>     But I think this will be something I will investigate further for later
>     usage.  It may not provide much extra benefit.  Though it may... However
>     I am going to concentrate on the major issues for now.
> 
>     I was kinda hoping someone would know more about whether this was
>     doable... though I do think it should be....  I may do some testing but
>     there are some things I need to finish before I start something else :)
> 
>     On 09/14/2014 11:11 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>     > Hi Israel,
>     >
>     > I do not fully understand how an installation along those lines should
>     > work. But I know that you understand a lot about creating a full
>     > operating system, so I encourage you to try it; to do what you
>     want with
>     > a much smaller foot-print than doing it with ubiquity.
>     >
>     > Another option might be to extend the OBI to take advantage of an
>     > existing home partition; to let you include it or copy it to be
>     used in
>     > the system that is being installed.
>     >
>     > Best regards
>     > Nio
>     >
>     > Den 2014-09-14 22:37, Israel skrev:
>     >> Hi all,
>     >> I agree in both respects.
>     >> The target system is something that will freeze up using ubiquity....
>     >> however,
>     >> our target is also people that want a lightweight environment that is
>     >> fairly easy to set up, and is fully customizable.  This would
>     make using
>     >> Ubiquity ideal for some people... however,
>     >> I have an idea that we could in effect partition the harddrive
>     for the
>     >> user based on a few options, and detecting what is already on the
>     >> machine (is it Linux, or not?).
>     >> Then make a chroot on the computer from stored packages in
>     /var/apt/cache
>     >> and install grub2 to it.... and voila.
>     >> It could be a simple dialog program that asks a couple of
>     questions, and
>     >> runs basically the script we already have to build the Live CD,
>     but uses
>     >> /dev/sdX mounted at /mnt/OS as the chroot directory.  it could
>     >> potentially link /dev/sdN as the /home of the new system.
>     >>
>     >> Phill, does this seem reasonable?  Am I missing something major
>     in what
>     >> I understand here?  This seems like what Ubiquity would be doing
>     in essence.
>     >>
>     >> On 09/14/2014 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>     >>> No, I'm not joking, Phill :-D
>     >>>
>     >>> Ubiquity should not be the only installer, because it has a heavy
>     >>> foot-print, as you wrote. I certainly agree with you about that.
>     >>>
>     >>> But I think many people 'need it' to set up their system in an
>     advanced
>     >>> way, with several partitions or with OEM.
>     >>>
>     >>> For OEM it is enough to include ubiquity in the tarball and not
>     in the
>     >>> installer (live system). We can consider that.
>     >>>
>     >>> -o-
>     >>>
>     >>> But I suggest that we do *not* include ubiquity in the present
>     version
>     >>> of ToriOS.
>     >>>
>     >>> The alternate installer is an entirely different concept without
>     a live
>     >>> session. It would create a doublet system, that I do not think
>     we should
>     >>> bother about for ToriOS. The OBI needs much less RAM than the
>     alternate
>     >>> installer, and it is much faster and much more stable,
>     particularly with
>     >>> low end computers.
>     >>>
>     >>> Who needs a very complicated partition system on a very old and weak
>     >>> computer? I think some people want it, but do they really need
>     it? Many
>     >>> people (including me) are happy with one root partition, one swap
>     >>> partition and a *data partition*, that need not be included in the
>     >>> system setup, and that can be managed separately for pictures,
>     music,
>     >>> video, etc). This is easily set up with gparted and used by the
>     OBI at
>     >>> the advanced OBI level.
>     >>>
>     >>> It might be different in a more powerful computer, but then
>     ubiquity can
>     >>> do the job.
>     >>>
>     >>> Best regards
>     >>> Nio
>     >>>
>     >>> Den 2014-09-14 16:51, Phill Whiteside skrev:
>     >>>> WHAT????
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 14 September 2014 15:22, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     >>>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>     wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     So even I would say that ubiquity should be bundled with
>     ToriOS, maybe
>     >>>>     not in the first version, but in the next version, or in a
>     DVD version
>     >>>>     (oversized for CD disks), while we must keep a very lean CD
>     version.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> you are joking.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Use the alternate installer as per lubuntu. A lot of the
>     machines you
>     >>>> are aiming for could not run ubiquity! Lubuntu runs on less
>     than what
>     >>>> Ubiquity needs.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Just my thoughts,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Phill.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> --
>     >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>     >>
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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