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[Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>]

"""Maximized windows need no titlebar across the full screen edge. See
Photoshop, Office, Firefox, Chrome (on Windows)."""

But the difference is that all of those applications have title bars. The
only difference is that they have stuff in them. Firefox and Chrome have
tabs there. Office has icons, and Photoshop has a menu.

Wait a minute, they're putting a menu in the titlebar. I feel like I've seen
that somewhere before...

Getting rid of the title bar on maximised windows means that applications
have to implement their own window management, like Chrome without native
title bars in Ubuntu. What happens if an an application doesn't do this? The
window is maximised, and the user has no way to restore it, as the window
controls provided by the WM are gone (with the title bar), and it hasn't
implemented it's own version. This means that this application simply
doesn't work in Ubuntu. That's a huge limiting factor.

Instead of removing the title bar, give an application more control over
what gets put in the menu bar. instead of having only textual menus, allow
icons (in the Office example) or tabs (for the browsers) as well. Then,
allow these elements to be integrated into Unity's existing Top Panel and
Global menu. Then make sure that whatever is shown in the menu, it's shown
all the time, without waiting for a hover event.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 17:41, Ed Lin <edlin280@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:15 AM, ello <tenniswithshovels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > But don't all designers take into account the title bar of the window?
> > Don't all the features you talk about appear under it?  Since, when
> > maximised, the panel is the title bar, I don't see how this is a
> > concern.  Have I missed something?
>
> Yes, it's not flexible. It can only do text menus. Menus which never
> are that fast to begin with because at the very least require two
> clicks (or my "drag click"). It can't do toolbar icons or tabs nor can
> it handle two apps tiled side by side.
>
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