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[Michael Rawson <michaelrawson76@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:03:14 -0500
James King <jlking3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> What are the chances of having an installer that gives you the choice
> to install either one? Maybe even add Midori to the mix? It doesn't
> matter to me either way: both are fast enough on my netbook and each
> continues to improve.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
> > debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
> > I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all but
> > we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder voice
> > IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I mean,
> > they should agree about that.
> >
> > EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep Lubuntu
> > as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow Ubuntu's
> > Steps.
> > Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
> > could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
> > Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
> > many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
> > own information.
> >
> > I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine with
> > many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by default,
> > not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
> >
> > I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
> > some tests and send the report via mailing list?
> >
> > As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission accomplished.
> > IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.
> >
> > I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:
> >
> > 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
> > 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
> > everyone.
> >
> >
> > I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
> > could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
> > is my motto :)
> >
> > Cya
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
> >> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
> >> > "This
> >> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
> >> Isn't that the same ?
> >> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
> >> I guess that is a low machine.
> >> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
> >>
> >> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
> >> > such
> >> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
> >>
> >> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
> >> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
> >> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
> >> arguments.
> >> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
> >> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Google is dropping H264 support:
> >> > http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
> >>
> >> Google Chrome != Chromium
> >>
> >> > Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
> >> > sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
> >> > available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
> >> > it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
> >>
> >> At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
> >> tab cannot crash the whole browser.
> >>
> >> > While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
> >> > web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
> >> > than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
> >> > source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
> >> > nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
> >> > continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
> >> > different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
> >> > the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
> >> > supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
> >> > maintain Chromium).
> >>
> >> I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
> >> Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
> >> existens.
> >> And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
> >> software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
> >> free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free
> >> software products.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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Kubuntu does that with firefox. It's an option, but it seems a little tacky. with all due respect. :)

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Michael Rawson <michaelrawson76@xxxxxxxxx>