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[Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe it should be a "bug"/feature for ubiquity? Just an idea.

With metta, Chris
On Nov 10, 2011 5:37 PM, "Michael Rawson" <michaelrawson76@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:03:14 -0500
> James King <jlking3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > What are the chances of having an installer that gives you the choice
> > to install either one? Maybe even add Midori to the mix? It doesn't
> > matter to me either way: both are fast enough on my netbook and each
> > continues to improve.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
> > > debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
> > > I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of
> all but
> > > we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
> voice
> > > IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
> mean,
> > > they should agree about that.
> > >
> > > EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
> Lubuntu
> > > as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow Ubuntu's
> > > Steps.
> > > Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows
> what
> > > could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
> > > Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see
> how
> > > many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for
> my
> > > own information.
> > >
> > > I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot
> machine with
> > > many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
> default,
> > > not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
> > >
> > > I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not
> do
> > > some tests and send the report via mailing list?
> > >
> > > As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission
> accomplished.
> > > IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium
> talk.
> > >
> > > I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to
> you:
> > >
> > > 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
> > > 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it
> to
> > > everyone.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion
> and I
> > > could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't
> disrespect
> > > is my motto :)
> > >
> > > Cya
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
> > >> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
> > >> > "This
> > >> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
> > >> Isn't that the same ?
> > >> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
> > >> I guess that is a low machine.
> > >> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
> > >>
> > >> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please
> keep
> > >> > such
> > >> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
> > >>
> > >> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
> > >> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good
> user
> > >> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by
> good
> > >> arguments.
> > >> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
> > >> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Google is dropping H264 support:
> > >> >
> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
> > >>
> > >> Google Chrome != Chromium
> > >>
> > >> > Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
> > >> > sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
> > >> > available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process
> so
> > >> > it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
> > >>
> > >> At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that
> one
> > >> tab cannot crash the whole browser.
> > >>
> > >> > While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the
> free
> > >> > web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more
> open
> > >> > than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think
> open
> > >> > source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
> > >> > nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope
> Firefox
> > >> > continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
> > >> > different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
> > >> > the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
> > >> > supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can
> help
> > >> > maintain Chromium).
> > >>
> > >> I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
> > >> Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
> > >> existens.
> > >> And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
> > >> software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
> > >> free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two
> free
> > >> software products.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
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> Kubuntu does that with firefox. It's an option, but it seems a little
> tacky. with all due respect. :)
>
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