On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Patrik Bubák
<bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Ali,
Hi Patrik and everyone else :)
if you expect work to be done, then it has to be in a way where
people can respond to each other proactively despite the
differences in time zones.
May I remind you all that we are all volunteers and NONE of us are
getting paid for what we're doing? that said, I'm afraid real life
comes first. That said, if you need Alfredo or anyone else, you need
to wait until he/we see the email, read and then reply. This is what I
have been doing for +4 years so far with many projects ... I'm sure
this is what others do as well.
I'm not sure where is he? but I'm sure he'll get back to you ;)
While it is true that Alfredo is the driver of Artwork, I'm the driver
of the community. Things that need approval must go through the Ubuntu
GNOME Board. The board has all the drivers for Ubuntu GNOME. So, if
one driver is away, others can do the needful unless something is very
specific required. In that case, Acting Team Leaders must step in.
http://ubuntugnome.org/acting-team-leader/
The mailing list and IRC have been used until now and what's the
state of the website again? Is there actually any solid foundation
that can be built upon? How long has it been dragging itself?
Wait, what this has to do with communications?! I'm confused and lost
again ...
The website thing started 'before' you join us and IMHO, it is not
because which platform we're using or have used .. there are other
reasons. If you ask me, it is lack of follow up and serious attempts
to do the website. Sometimes, if I'm away, things will not go forward
.. that is indeed why I have found some people who stepped in and took
over some of my roles.
I have no objections against hanging in IRC, or any efficient way
for that matter, for me it's a suitable way also, as I'm logged
almost constantly, but at the same time I'm used to more effective
ways of communication than browsing through endlessly nested and
cluttered email communications.
I am calling for means of active development mainly for those of
us who are actually willing to work on the design. Non-designers
don't have to be a direct part of it, not saying they don't have a
say in it of course, but if we are to work efficiently, there has
to be a better way,
Artwork team members are FREE to use whatever platform 'they' prefer.
However, official communications MUST be done via mailing list, that
is Launchpad for the Artwork + the main mailing list of Ubuntu GNOME :)
Not being a dictator but that's my opinion about this.
You guys are free to organize yourselves the way you wish, no problem
here. That is why there are sub-teams. However, once there is update,
progress, etc ... you guys need to use the mailing list. I'm not
interested to be part of ANY NEW channel. I am part of tons of
projects. Having one extra channel is an overkill for me. YMMV.
or things can stay as they are and expect your site be done maybe
in 2020.
:)
Dňa 10.1.2015 o 12:38 Ali/amjjawad napísal(a):
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Patrik Bubák
<bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Anyone knows how to get a hold of Alfredo? There're a couple
of decisions that need to be made.
Different time zones, real life, etc. That's why we use the
mailing list ;)
After a count of previous responses it has come down to these
options, so _please vote_, so we can get to work:
_*
*_*The social media of choice:*
* Facebook (Messenger, Groups)
* Google+ (Hangouts, Drive, Calendar, Keep)
I'm not going to list PROs, as we're all aware of those, but
CONs, where there is a major difference when it comes to
graphics, for instance Facebook has very crappy image
compression resulting to image pixelation and distortion even
if one makes a banner of the exact size and format. I have
never experienced something like that on Google+.
If either is selected:
* a secret group will be created with admin rights for all
to allow file uploads
* direct reach via the chat system is a necessity
* occasional audio conferences would be great
*Important note:* please leave a link to your profile with
your vote so we can add each other as contacts.
*The cloud storage for real-time file editing and instant
access* (so the changes are in the cloud instantly and on the
other collaborator's machine):
* Google Drive (limited to Windows and OSX with their
clients, but best integration with Google services)
* Copy (supports all platforms, also my preference)
* Dropbox (supports all platforms)
I'm sorry, I'm not following. What are we trying to achieve here?!
Official and formal Ubuntu GNOME Team Internal Communications, as
per the Contact Us Wiki Page and as per what we have been doing
since day 1 and as other communities within Ubuntu do ... we need
to use:
* Mailing List
* IRC
Social Media are NOT for serious official communications. I don't
really want to list the features of these sites but please DO NOT
think about using that for serious stuff.
I'll vote against using any social media for any serious
communications.
I thought we are trying to build some kind of close relationships
or a friendly way to communicate 'beside' the official channels
(mailing list and IRC)?!
I see I'm not on the same page ...
--
Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
*Remember: *"All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage>
http://torios.org - StartUbuntu
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - http://amjjawad.net
--
Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
*Remember: *"All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage>
http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
- http://amjjawad.net
