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["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,


On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Patrik Bubák <bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>  All I voted for was to establish a cloud storage and a method of
> reaching one another to work more effectively.
>
> I'm not sure what central repository guys working on the code use as it's
> not my field, but I assume it's GitHub or the likes, where someone enters
> their part of the work and someone else can have a look later, or at least
> that's how I think it works, am not sure.
>
> Designers' work is different in ways that we need to sit down, talk,
> draft, sketch, visualize instead of sending screenshots and colour codes
> and the list goes on, again, depending on the schedule, or at least I am
> used to those ways of working, not sure about the rest.
>
> I too am only a volunteer despite me being in a critical financial
> situation, but have decided to put this as one of the projects before
> everything else, one of the reasons is my internship at a design company
> and it would be only a gain for both sides.
>
> I hope that before some start to criticize my perhaps seemingly radical
> approach they will see the effort I tried to put into this.
>
>
I have replied in details to Alfredo on different thread. Let's move
forward ;)


> I have nothing more to add on the subject, nor will I suggest anything in
> the future.
>

While I highly appreciate each and every suggestion, I don't want to see
something like:

"nor will I suggest anything in the future."

This kind of negative or less helpful approach will help no one here. Our
voluntary job here is to work as one team. We might disagree often but at
the end of the day, we all do work together for the greater good of our
project, that is Ubuntu GNOME.

Please, do not be discourage to suggest anything in the future ;)

While we have disagreed more than we agreed, I see you're an important and
great needed addition to our team. I don't care how many times we disagreed
:D I care about how good we could work side by side and above all, what can
we achieve.

Thanks for all your hard work, everyone!


>
>  Dňa 10.1.2015 o 13:05 Ali/amjjawad napísal(a):
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Patrik Bubák <bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
>>  Ali,
>>
>
>  Hi Patrik and everyone else :)
>
>
>> if you expect work to be done, then it has to be in a way where people
>> can respond to each other proactively despite the differences in time zones.
>>
>
>  May I remind you all that we are all volunteers and NONE of us are
> getting paid for what we're doing? that said, I'm afraid real life comes
> first. That said, if you need Alfredo or anyone else, you need to wait
> until he/we see the email, read and then reply. This is what I have been
> doing for +4 years so far with many projects ... I'm sure this is what
> others do as well.
>
>  I'm not sure where is he? but I'm sure he'll get back to you ;)
>
>  While it is true that Alfredo is the driver of Artwork, I'm the driver
> of the community. Things that need approval must go through the Ubuntu
> GNOME Board. The board has all the drivers for Ubuntu GNOME. So, if one
> driver is away, others can do the needful unless something is very specific
> required. In that case, Acting Team Leaders must step in.
>
> http://ubuntugnome.org/acting-team-leader/
>
>
>>
>> The mailing list and IRC have been used until now and what's the state of
>> the website again? Is there actually any solid foundation that can be built
>> upon? How long has it been dragging itself?
>>
>
>  Wait, what this has to do with communications?! I'm confused and lost
> again ...
>
>  The website thing started 'before' you join us and IMHO, it is not
> because which platform we're using or have used .. there are other reasons.
> If you ask me, it is lack of follow up and serious attempts to do the
> website. Sometimes, if I'm away, things will not go forward .. that is
> indeed why I have found some people who stepped in and took over some of my
> roles.
>
>
>>
>> I have no objections against hanging in IRC, or any efficient way for
>> that matter, for me it's a suitable way also, as I'm logged almost
>> constantly, but at the same time I'm used to more effective ways of
>> communication than browsing through endlessly nested and cluttered email
>> communications.
>>
>> I am calling for means of active development mainly for those of us who
>> are actually willing to work on the design. Non-designers don't have to be
>> a direct part of it, not saying they don't have a say in it of course, but
>> if we are to work efficiently, there has to be a better way,
>>
>
>  Artwork team members are FREE to use whatever platform 'they' prefer.
>  However, official communications MUST be done via mailing list, that is
> Launchpad for the Artwork + the main mailing list of Ubuntu GNOME :)
>
>  Not being a dictator but that's my opinion about this.
>
>  You guys are free to organize yourselves the way you wish, no problem
> here. That is why there are sub-teams. However, once there is update,
> progress, etc ... you guys need to use the mailing list. I'm not interested
> to be part of ANY NEW channel. I am part of tons of projects. Having one
> extra channel is an overkill for me. YMMV.
>
>
>>
>> or things can stay as they are and expect your site be done maybe in 2020.
>>
>
>  :)
>
>
>
>
>>
>>  Dňa 10.1.2015 o 12:38 Ali/amjjawad napísal(a):
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Patrik Bubák <
>> bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  Anyone knows how to get a hold of Alfredo? There're a couple of
>>> decisions that need to be made.
>>>
>>
>>  Different time zones, real life, etc. That's why we use the mailing
>> list ;)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> After a count of previous responses it has come down to these options,
>>> so *please vote*, so we can get to work:
>>>
>>> *The social media of choice:*
>>>
>>>    - Facebook (Messenger, Groups)
>>>     - Google+ (Hangouts, Drive, Calendar, Keep)
>>>
>>> I'm not going to list PROs, as we're all aware of those, but CONs, where
>>> there is a major difference when it comes to graphics, for instance
>>> Facebook has very crappy image compression resulting to image pixelation
>>> and distortion even if one makes a banner of the exact size and format. I
>>> have never experienced something like that on Google+.
>>>
>>> If either is selected:
>>>
>>>    - a secret group will be created with admin rights for all to allow
>>>    file uploads
>>>    - direct reach via the chat system is a necessity
>>>    - occasional audio conferences would be great
>>>
>>> *Important note:* please leave a link to your profile with your vote so
>>> we can add each other as contacts.
>>>  *The cloud storage for real-time file editing and instant access* (so
>>> the changes are in the cloud instantly and on the other collaborator's
>>> machine):
>>>
>>>    - Google Drive (limited to Windows and OSX with their clients, but
>>>    best integration with Google services)
>>>     - Copy (supports all platforms, also my preference)
>>>     - Dropbox (supports all platforms)
>>>
>>>
>>  I'm sorry, I'm not following. What are we trying to achieve here?!
>>
>>  Official and formal Ubuntu GNOME Team Internal Communications, as per
>> the Contact Us Wiki Page and as per what we have been doing since day 1 and
>> as other communities within Ubuntu do ... we need to use:
>>
>>
>>    - Mailing List
>>    - IRC
>>
>> Social Media are NOT for serious official communications. I don't really
>> want to list the features of these sites but please DO NOT think about
>> using that for serious stuff.
>>
>> I'll vote against using any social media for any serious communications.
>>
>>
>>  I thought we are trying to build some kind of close relationships or a
>> friendly way to communicate 'beside' the official channels (mailing list
>> and IRC)?!
>>
>> I see I'm not on the same page ...
>>
>> --
>>     Best Regards,
>>  Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
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>>
>>
>
>
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>
>


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