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Re: Notifications in unity

 

On 11/18/2011 01:11 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
Den 18. nov. 2011 04:51, skrev Omar B.:
- the items that now hide inside the MM are the icons (or what used to be icons in the panel/systray).
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https://a248.e.akamai.net/assets.github.com/img/15183cadf2a9cdd7781aea9a6a22b84455adf703/687474703a2f2f6935342e74696e797069632e636f6d2f32343136787a6f2e706e67
No, that is not true. The entries are in the menu all the time. It's 
just the window that's being hidden. It doesn't have anything to do 
with the indicator.
- users used to spot these icons quickly

ref.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/TALwoQRxZrI/AAAAAAAAIBY/4Wxk1JmG-34/s1600/Selection_002.png
Read Microsofts description of why that was a horrible idea and why 
they've wanted to get rid  of it for more than a decade. In short, 
that system was completely incomprehensible because all apps would 
work in completely different ways. Some would use left-click, others 
would use right click. Some would use double-click and still some 
would use middle-click. They also didn't symbolize things in a similar 
way, so you would have to understand every single icon separately.
You've completely drifted off course here, if your point was to make 
Unity easier to understand and learn.
It is very difficult for me to understand why you would force people 
to use Unity if they want a similar environment to Windows 95. Use 
Lxpanel instead. Actually, we have panels that make Ubuntu look 
exactly like Windows. It is an extremely bad idea to have as a main 
objective that Ubuntu should be automatically useable as long as 
you're accustomed to Windows.
Right. They're not used to it, and that seems to be your entire case. 
But it is not a valid argument. People used to say that about
movies too, before you got sound. «Nobody will ever want to hear an 
actor speak», they said. «People aren't used to it.» That was also 
used as an argument against the use of telephone. People were used to 
sending telegrams, so adding telephone would be a bad idea.
People were once used to entering commands, and the thought of using a 
mouse was difficult to understand. If your type of argument would win, 
we would still be entering commands for everything. You just can't let 
peoples habits get in the way of progress, because then there will be 
no progress.
Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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The solution here would be to stop crowding the messaging menu (which really makes no sense), and allow autohiding of indicators, similar to the KDE systray.


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