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Re: Guidelines for translations

 

Satchit,

The whole translation process works in totally a different way and it's
totally community driven. So the reason you're seeing a lot of "." instead
of "|" because that's what community used.

However, standardization has happened through GNOME glossary and FUEL
glossary
http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-i18n/trunk/glossary/hi.po?view=log

https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/wiki/fuel-hindi

Its suggested to use translations from above, if some term is missing then
it can be added.

Regards,
Gaurav Mishra

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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM, satchitb@xxxxxxxxx <satchitb@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> With people tending to favour the use of ॉ मात्रा and "|" over ".", I see
> no resolution other than modifying Hindi Wx. I have no experience in this,
> but if anyone in the group is in contact with those are in charge of that
> project, could they please propose that "." on the Hindi Wx keyboard (Hindi
> Wx *is* default on Hindi Ubuntu, right? If not, perhaps we could discuss
> that) be replaced by a more elegant पूर्ण विराम. Since "." is still needed
> for decimals, perhaps we could shift it to where "|" currently sits?
>
>
> On 18 February 2012 20:31, Neeraj Semwal <semwal.neeraj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nukul and Sandeep,
>>
>> Welcome to you and you can start contributing whenever and whatever you
>> like :)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM, nukul sehgal <nuse0111@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi friends,
>>> Count me in too.
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Nukul Sehgal
>>> (+91-9805577098)
>>> nuse0111@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Jaypee University of Information Technology
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Vibhav Pant <vibhavp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also The Translation Page shows how to translate using .po files , I
>>>> think this part must be removed since it does not give the contributer any
>>>> Karma. This might be a HUGE loss if the person is applying for Ubuntu
>>>> Membership.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Vibhav Pant <vibhavp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also abbreviations like DVD could be translated to डीoवीoडी , such
>>>>> that its more comfortable to only-hindi speakers.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Vibhav Pant <vibhavp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stiil doubt the "|" part , Though I accept it looks big on screen ,
>>>>>> but it should be used if we want to translate Ubuntu to Hindi. Remember ,
>>>>>> its not only urban people who will use Ubuntu in Hindi. If Ubuntu is spread
>>>>>> to rural India many people would not be understand the ".". I shall be
>>>>>> putting this document on the Wiki page , (Without the "|" part)
>>>>>> Keep up the great work , though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Ashutosh Kumar Singh <
>>>>>> akapribot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Sanchit,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We surely will be contributing...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 7:17 PM, satchitb@xxxxxxxxx <
>>>>>>> satchitb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have made the following document:
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14jM_vGDcBbio7ITwY_Q7JNW15eO5vrzjDWafnjehDns/edit
>>>>>>>> Anybody can edit it, and I encourage the team to add to it, as my
>>>>>>>> own time is limited. I think this will be a great job by the community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18 February 2012 19:14, Vibhav Pant <vibhavp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you know that another Hindi Translation Team exists which is
>>>>>>>>> assigned to many other projects? The team is dead ,due to which many other
>>>>>>>>> translation suggestions are not getting approved. I wonder if anything can
>>>>>>>>> be done to get in contact with the team.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:03 PM, satchitb@xxxxxxxxx <
>>>>>>>>> satchitb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One thing I've noticed while translating elementary OS
>>>>>>>>>> applications is that they keep terms common between all applications. This
>>>>>>>>>> makes translations very easy, because Launchpad will have fewer
>>>>>>>>>> suggestions, and new translators can just check a box and move on quickly.
>>>>>>>>>> In Ubuntu, that's not always true: in some places we find "Preferences",
>>>>>>>>>> while in others we find "Options". Regardless, we should keep Hindi Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> simple and consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 18 February 2012 17:59, Ashutosh Kumar Singh <
>>>>>>>>>> akapribot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello my fellow translators,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Last time, Ubuntu's official Hindi translated release was
>>>>>>>>>>> pending due to 3-4% due translations (PS- statistics can't be accurate but
>>>>>>>>>>> reason was obvious).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I am saying is that Let's take our national language,
>>>>>>>>>>> Hindi, to official release of Ubuntu. Lets make our goal to complete most
>>>>>>>>>>> translations till October 2012 so that Hindi can be there in Ubuntu 12.10
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our goal is simple and we've plenty of time (if we start working
>>>>>>>>>>> at present). Personally speaking, I too stop translating when I reach
>>>>>>>>>>> translations that are difficult because I don't want to contribute wrong
>>>>>>>>>>> translations. I believe we face alike problems while translating words at
>>>>>>>>>>> Launchpad.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I am working on a website LinuxAthena.com<http://linuxathena.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> , which can be used to host the wiki, if you're planning to make
>>>>>>>>>>> it. But, I am with Neeraj, when he said, "What I suggest is first let us
>>>>>>>>>>> start working on this file and once we reach a consensus then we can save
>>>>>>>>>>> it off to a "Hindi Translation Guidelines Wiki" which could be used in
>>>>>>>>>>> future not only for Translating Ubuntu but for every Industrial strength
>>>>>>>>>>> application worldwide".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But, I will go with you all. Please share all of your
>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions so that we can start working quickly on this great venture.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if you got it twice.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and happy translating!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Gaurav Mishra <
>>>>>>>>>>> gauravtechie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do exist and do read discussions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to ask my help wherever needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaurav Mishra
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> # Blog: http://www.gmishra.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> # Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gmishra
>>>>>>>>>>>> # LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/gauravmishra7
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Vibhav Pant <vibhavp@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is actually a page at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HindiTranslators. You can edit it if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS : It seems like Gaurav Mishra (the leader of this team) is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inactive. So could you please support my question @
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/186665suchg that a new leader can be chosen ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Neeraj Semwal <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> semwal.neeraj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Satchit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great to see your interest and enthusiasm in this work :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sure go ahead, make a new document, even I also find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present document to be a cluttered one but as I said earlier it can be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good starting point. And yeah I like your suggestion to make a new document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a section for comments underneath it, let me suggest further that let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us create a document something like PHP documentation(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.php.net/manual/en/ ), you may be knowing about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this already but if you have a look it, it's a masterpiece of "learning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with collaboration", there below every function or concept there is section
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for comments where people discuss, clear their doubts and many times make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable contribution to the documentation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the point I want to stress here is that the way the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation is presented with a facility to discuss any ambiguity in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments section can be implemented in the "new document" which we'll make.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again this is just a suggestion and open to improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me what else you have in your mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I urge everyone to make suggestions for improvement and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute their bit in this development :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neeraj Semwal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                        - -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pablo Picasso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal and the Greatest ones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it Open Source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                        - -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah yeah its by me :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>> an emerging Linux community
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ashutosh Kumar Singh
>>>>>>> LinuxAthena.com <http://www.eosTech.in>
>>>>>>> an emerging Linux community
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Source
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